Help Needed: Activation Energy for KMnO4 + H2C2O4 Reaction

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The discussion centers on the urgent need to find the activation energy for the reaction between potassium permanganate and oxalic acid. The original poster is seeking this value without experimental data, having searched various chemistry databases without success. Respondents emphasize the importance of conducting the experiment to derive the activation energy rather than seeking external sources, labeling the latter as "cheating." They suggest that using experimental data is essential and that there are formulas available that relate activation energy to reaction rates, which could be utilized if the poster provides more context. The consensus is that adhering to the lab's requirements is crucial for academic integrity.
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Plea for help with kinetics lab -- Urgent

I am trying to find a value for the activation energy of the reaction involving potassium permanganate and oxalic acid. I have scoured every free chemistry database on the internet and come up with nothing. Does anyone know how I can calculate this value without using experimental data? Or is there a book that I can find in the library that would contain it? If anyone has access to information I don't, could you please look up this value for me?

This is extremely important.

Thanks!
 
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http://colossus.chem.umass.edu/genchem/chem112/112_Experiment_4.htm
 
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Don't you have to determine the E(act) from the lab ? Wouldn't getting it from outside be "cheating" ?
 
Hey, Gokul is right -- It would be cheating... If you are asked to do the experiment and find it this way, don't try anything else. This is strongly discouraged in PF community. The link I gave you again involves lab procedure, if I'm not wrong.
 
eku_girl83 said:
I am trying to find a value for the activation energy of the reaction involving potassium permanganate and oxalic acid. I have scoured every free chemistry database on the internet and come up with nothing. Does anyone know how I can calculate this value without using experimental data? Or is there a book that I can find in the library that would contain it? If anyone has access to information I don't, could you please look up this value for me?

This is extremely important.

Thanks!

Why do you want to find out the Activation energy without using experimental data? If you are indeed doing a lab, you should just use only the values available to you, since the teachers wouldn't expect you to be perfect...

As a matter of fact, there is a formula that relates activation energy to the rate of reaction, thus you can determine the activation energy just from your own data. Please explain yourself further before i can give you the formula. I am not sure if I am suppose to or not from the posts by Goku and Chem_tr
 

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