Help needed for this question - Air pressure in a bike tire

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The discussion focuses on calculating the density and weight of air in a bike tire given a pressure gauge reading of 8 bar at 21°C. The actual pressure inside the tire is clarified to be 9 bar when accounting for atmospheric pressure. Participants suggest using the ideal gas law, pv = mRT, to derive the necessary equations for density and mass. The importance of distinguishing between gauge pressure and actual pressure is emphasized, with guidance on how to incorporate these values into calculations. The conversation concludes with a request for further clarification on the calculations involved.
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Help needed for this question -- Air pressure in a bike tire

Homework Statement


The Pressure gauge on a bike pump reads 8 bar at sea level on a day when the temperature is 21°C. Assume that the gas constant for air is 286.9 J/Kg K

a) What is the density of the air in the tyre?

b) What is the weight of the air in the tyre, if the diameter of the wheel is 0.66m and the diameter of the inner tube is 4cm
Help would be greatly appreciated

also in SI units please :)

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


pv=mRT

p= 8bar
R= 286.9
T= 273+21 294

m=?

equation V=mRT/P?
 
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Some notes:
The pressure in the tire is the gauge pressure ... what is the actual pressure?
You can construct the state equation for the gas in the tire OK?
Density is mass-per-unit-volume, though you can have a molar density as the number of moles per unit volume ... that would be (m/V) right?
... that should take care of part (a) ... having got the density, you should be able to get the mass from the volume for part (b).
 


so the pressure will be...

(Pgage = ρgh??) + (pressure of atmosphere 101325pa * temp 21°)
 


andyb1990 said:
so the pressure will be...

(Pgage = ρgh??) + (pressure of atmosphere 101325pa * temp 21°)

1. p ~ 8 + 1 = 9 bar. What's with "ρgh"??

I suppose you can be more precise & include T effect.

2. You said pV = mRT, so rewrite this substituting density ρ. I would not mess with moles, no need and no point.

3. Rest is straightforward.
 


The rude man is correct - a tire gauge compares the pressure of the atmosphere outside the tire with the pressure of the air inside it... reading out the difference. So:P_{gauge}=P_{actual}-P_{atmos}

Keep going... :)
 


so the equation including density would look likeP=ρ(R/M)Tsorry I just can't get my head around it! :(

and the actual pressure would be 7bar?
 
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