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A simple pendulum released from the horizontal position will take less time to swing from 0 to 30 degrees than from 30 to 90 degrees. The speed of the pendulum as a function of angle is given by the equation v = √(2gl sin(θ)). The discussion focuses on the differentiation process to derive the relationship between speed and angle, specifically using the chain rule. The user expresses confusion about the steps in the differentiation, which is clarified through the application of the power and chain rules. Understanding these concepts helps in grasping the physical implications of the pendulum's motion.
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Homework Statement


A simple pendulum in quiet is released from the horizontal (##\theta=0##) (##\theta=90## for the vertical). Will the pendulum cover in the smaller time the arch from ##\theta=0## to ##\theta=30## or from ##\theta=30## to ##\theta=90##?

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I would like to know one thing: by the conservation on law, the speed in function of ##\theta## is ##v=\sqrt{2glsin\theta}##. Then I found a solution that says: "taking the differential I get ##dv= \sqrt{2gl} \frac{cos\theta}{2 \sqrt{sin\theta}} d\theta##. How can this passage is possible? I don't understand what happen
 
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Suppose you are given:

##f(u)=k\left(\sin(u)\right)^{\frac{1}{2}}##

Using the power and chain rules, what do you get for:

##\dfrac{df}{du}=?##
 
Bestfrog said:
taking the differential I get dv=√2glcosθ2√sinθdθdv=2glcosθ2sinθdθdv= \sqrt{2gl} \frac{cos\theta}{2 \sqrt{sin\theta}} d\theta. How can this passage is possible? I don't understand what happen
It is based on the chain rule of differentiation. Have you studied differentiation?
 
Yes I know. Now I understand the physical meaning
 
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