Help with infinite square well

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A particle of mass m moves in 1-D infinite square well. at t=0, its wave function is \Psi\left(x,t=0\right)=A\left(a^{2}-x^{2}\right). Find the probability that the particle is in the energy eigenstate E_{n}. Does the probability change with time?

What I have so far:
So far I just found the normalization constant for the wave function at t=0:

\int|\Psi\left(x,t=0\right)|^{2}dx=1
...A=\frac{1}{4}\sqrt\frac{15}{a^{5}}

So we have \Psi\left(x, t=0\right)=\frac{1}{4}\sqrt\frac{15}{a^{5}}\left(a^{2}-x^{2}\right)

Now, because this is infinite square well, \Psi=0 at the boundary. From that, we can find out the energy eigenstate:
E_{n}=\frac{n^{2}\hbar^{2}\pi^{2}}{8ma^{2}} (Derived in class)

But what to do from there? I don't know...
 
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Hint #1: Any wave function can be expressed as a linear combination of energy eigenstates:

\Psi = c_1 \Psi_1 + c_2 \Psi_2 + ...

where (if the functions are all normalized) c_1^* c_1 is the probability of being in eigenstate \Psi_1, etc.

Hint #2: If the eigenstates are normalized, what is the value of

\int {\Psi_m^* \Psi_n} dx

(a) when m = n, and (b) when m ≠ n?
 
\Psi = c_1 \psi_1 + c_2 \psi_2 + ...
where:
\psi_1=\frac{1}{\sqrt{a}}cos\left(\frac{n\pi}{2a}\right)x, n=1,3,5,...
\psi_2=\frac{1}{\sqrt{a}}sin\left(\frac{n\pi}{2a}\right)x,n=2,4,6,...
Because it is an infinite square well.

Then according to a note that I have,
c_1=\int^{a}_{-a}\Psi(x)\frac{1}{\sqrt{a}}cos\left(\frac{n\pi}{2a}\right)xdx
c_2=\int^{a}_{-a}\Psi(x)\frac{1}{\sqrt{a}}sin\left(\frac{n\pi}{2a}\right)xdx
where:
\Psi\left(x, t=0\right)=\frac{1}{4}\sqrt\frac{15}{a^{5}}\left(a^{2}-x^{2}\right)

But where did that relation come from? Can someone help me out?

Also, to jtbell: How is the probability of being in eigenstate \psi_1 = c_1*c_1? Can you please explain? Thank you!
 
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kcirick said:
\Psi = c_1 \psi_1 + c_2 \psi_2 + ...
where:
\psi_1=\frac{1}{\sqrt{a}}cos\left(\frac{n\pi}{2a}\right)x, n=1,3,5,...
\psi_2=\frac{1}{\sqrt{a}}sin\left(\frac{n\pi}{2a}\right)x,n=2,4,6,...
Because it is an infinite square well.

I'd prefer to write that as cos\left(\frac{n\pi}{2a}x\right), and similarly for the other one with the sine. Most people would read your version as "calculate \frac{n\pi}{2a}, find the cosine of the result, and finally multiply by x", which is not the same as "calculate \frac{n\pi}{2a} x and find the cosine of the result."

Then according to a note that I have,
c_1=\int^{a}_{-a}\Psi(x)\frac{1}{\sqrt{a}}cos\left(\frac{n\pi}{2a}\right)xdx
c_2=\int^{a}_{-a}\Psi(x)\frac{1}{\sqrt{a}}sin\left(\frac{n\pi}{2a}\right)xdx

I think those should be:

c_n=\int^{a}_{-a}\Psi(x)\frac{1}{\sqrt{a}}cos\left(\frac{n\pi}{2a}x\right)dx, n = 1,3,5...

c_n=\int^{a}_{-a}\Psi(x)\frac{1}{\sqrt{a}}sin\left(\frac{n\pi}{2a}x\right)dx, n = 2,4,6...

But where did that relation come from?

Both of the above relations can be written as

c_n=\int\Psi^*_n(x)\Psi(x)dx

To derive this, start with your first equation at the top, multiply both sides by \Psi^*_n(x), and integrate:

\int \Psi^*_n \Psi dx = c_1 \int \Psi^*_n \Psi_1 dx + c_2 \int \Psi^*_n \Psi_2 dx + ...

Now take note of hint #2 in my earlier posting. Your textbook almost certainly gives the answer to this hint, and possibly so do your notes. Look for the words "orthogonal" or "orthonormal". :smile:

Also, to jtbell: How is the probability of being in eigenstate \psi_1 = c_1*c_1?

I think the usual way to show this (or at least make it plausible) is to calculate the expectation value of the energy for \Psi, using the expansion given by your first equation at the top. Have you studied expectation values yet?
 
Thanks jtbell. Things are starting to become clear, but still the entire QM concept isn't very clear to me, and may never will be...

Anyways, I calculated c_n for both even n and odd n. For the odd n, I get a very nice answer:
c_n = \left(-1\right)^{\frac{n-1}{2}}\frac{4\sqrt{15}}{n\pi}, n=1,3,5,...

But for the even n, I get c_n=0 (because sin is an anti-symmetric function). Is this normal?

We did do Expectation values in class, but all I really know is that:
\left<E\right>=\int\Psi^*E\Psi dx
That is the next part of my question, I will get to that eventually.

I really appreciate this help, because to me QM stuff doesn't really make sense to me. Anyway, thank you!
 
kcirick said:
But for the even n, I get c_n=0 (because sin is an anti-symmetric function). Is this normal?

That's exactly what I would expect, because your given \Psi is symmetric about the origin (or "even"). It can't contain any contributions from anti-symmetric ("odd") eigenstates.
 
jtbell said:
Hint #2: If the eigenstates are normalized, what is the value of

\int {\Psi_m^* \Psi_n} dx

(a) when m = n, and (b) when m ≠ n?

Well, when m ≠ n, the integral is equal to 0, but neither my textbook nor my lecture notes tells me the answer when m = n. From intuition, my guess is 1, but is it correct? If it is, then I can do the following:

P = \int \Psi^* \Psi dx

Since \Psi = c_{n}\psi_{n} [/tex] for energy eigenstate E_{n},<br /> <br /> P = \int c_{n}^*\psi_{n}^* c_{n}\psi_{n}dx<br /> P = c_{n}^* c_{n} \int\psi_{n}^* \psi_{n}<br /> P = c_{n}^* c_{n}<br /> <br /> Is this allowed?
 
kcirick said:
Well, when m ≠ n, the integral is equal to 0, but neither my textbook nor my lecture notes tells me the answer when m = n. From intuition, my guess is 1, but is it correct?

Yes, but you shouldn't need pure intuition to realize this. If m = n, then the integral is just the normalization integral for the function in question. If the function is normalized already, this integral is...? :smile:

If it is, then I can do the following:

P = \int \Psi^* \Psi dx

Since \Psi = c_{n}\psi_{n} [/tex] for energy eigenstate E_{n},
<br /> <br /> No, in general, you have to assume that \Psi is a linear combination of <b>all</b> the energy eigenstates:<br /> <br /> \Psi = c_1 \psi_1 + c_2 \psi_2 + ... + c_n \psi_n + ...<br /> <br /> P = \int \Psi^*\Psi dx = \int (c_1^* \psi_1^* + c_2^* \psi_2^* + ... + c_n^* \psi_n^* + ...)(c_1 \psi_1 + c_2 \psi_2 + ... + c_n \psi_n + ...) dx<br /> <br /> Now multiply this out. You can&#039;t write the whole thing out, of course, because there are an infinite number of terms (n goes to infinity), but if you go out to, say, n = 3, that should be enough to see the pattern.
 
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