Help with projectile motion, finding x

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A balloon is attached to a 3m high pole, and a mortar fires at 7m/s at a 55-degree angle. Calculations show that the projectile cannot reach the height of 3m, even when aimed directly upwards, indicating that the mortar is not powerful enough. The maximum height achieved by the projectile is approximately 1.68m, much lower than the balloon's height. The discussion highlights confusion over the correct equations and calculations, ultimately confirming that the projectile will not hit the balloon. The participants plan to compare notes to clarify their findings further.
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Homework Statement


A balloon is attached to a 3m high pole. On the ground is a mortar that fires at a velocity of 7m/s at an angle of 55degrees. How far away does the mortar have to be to hit the balloon?

Homework Equations


y=tan(theta)x-g/(2v0cos2(theta)x2[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


I rearranged to make a quadratic equation from the equation above and made

g/(2v0cos2(theta)x2 - tan(theta)x+y=0

-9.81m/s2/(2*(7m/s)2(cos2(55deg)x2 - tan(55)x+3m

and ended up with 1.58m and -6.34m

I understand that there will be two solutions because the projectile can hit the balloon on the way up and the way down but i don't think these answers are correct.
 
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You seem to have a sign error. However, with the given numbers, I find there's no solution.
 
in my lecture the correct answer was something like 1.9 or something and i forget the other one but when i plugged my answer 1.58 back into y=tan(theta)x-g/(2vcos^2(theta)x^2 it comes out as the right y value - 3m.

is there a chance I am using the completely wrong equation for this?
 
You're using the right equation. Here's a plot of the trajectory with the given numbers. The projectile never reaches a height of 3 m.
 

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navm1 said:
in my lecture the correct answer was something like 1.9 or something and i forget the other one but when i plugged my answer 1.58 back into y=tan(theta)x-g/(2vcos^2(theta)x^2 it comes out as the right y value - 3m.
When I plug in x=1.58 m, I get y=1.50 m.
 
I feel a little lost then. so for a projectile firing at 7m/s at 55 degrees trying to hit a balloon 3m in the air, it will never actually hit it?
 
Right. It's not going fast enough to reach a height of 3 m when it's aimed at 55 degrees off the horizontal. In fact, even if you shot it straight up, it wouldn't reach that height.
 
im following now. max height is 1.68m if i worked it out correctly so perhaps my notes are wrong. I'll compare notes with a friend and post again. thanks for your help so far
 
I'm not sure how you got that number. There's something weird going on with your calculations.
 
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for max height i used

v0^2sin^2(theta)/2g

72*sin2(55) / 2 * 9.81 = 1.676
 
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Ah, okay, I thought you were referring to shooting the projectile straight up.
 
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