Help with rotational motion work

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a billiards ball transitioning from sliding to rolling motion after being struck. Participants analyze the kinetic energy before and after the ball begins to roll without slipping, using relevant equations for kinetic energy and rotational motion. Key points include the need to calculate the final velocity of the ball's center of mass, which will be lower than its initial speed due to energy loss from friction. The conversation emphasizes understanding the relationship between translational and rotational motion, as well as the mechanics of energy conversion during this transition. Ultimately, the problem highlights the importance of considering energy loss in rotational dynamics.
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Homework Statement



A billiards ball of mass M is initially motionless on a table when it is hit by a cue projecting it forward with speed V and no angular velocity. Find the speed of the ball when it eventually begins to roll. Assume the ball does not slip when it begins to roll. What proportion of the original kinetic energy is lost in the process? (The ball’s moment of inertia is 2Ma^2/5.)

Homework Equations



K=0.5mv^2
K=Iω^2
v=ωr

The Attempt at a Solution



k before = 0.5mv^2
after = Iw^2, where w=v/r

so proportion of energy lost = energy lost/original energy

=0.5mv^2-Iw^2 all over 0.5mv^2?

= 1- \frac{2a^2}{5r^2}
 
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I assume they mean for you to find when the ball begins rolling without slipping. How can you find that final velocity of the ball's center of mass?
 
Doc Al said:
I assume they mean for you to find when the ball begins rolling without slipping. How can you find that final velocity of the ball's center of mass?

I'm not sure, is it not the same as the start? or do i take into account energy lost before this?
 
Heisenburger said:
I'm not sure, is it not the same as the start?
How can it be? What causes the ball to rotate is friction, which slows the translational speed as it increases the rotational speed. In the process, mechanical energy is lost.

or do i take into account energy lost before this?
Start by figuring out the final velocity, which will be less than the initial velocity. (There are several ways of doing this.)
 
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