High-Altitude Research Balloon Design: Questions Answered

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The discussion focuses on designing a high-altitude research balloon, addressing key calculations for volume and lifting gas requirements. To calculate the volume of a zero-pressure balloon, the mass of the body should be divided by the density of air at altitude, but considerations for the larger envelope and gas expansion are necessary. Determining the amount of lifting gas needed at ground level involves specific formulas that account for buoyant force and gas behavior as altitude changes. Additionally, maintaining altitude requires compensation for the diurnal cycle, which affects temperature and gas expansion. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the complexities of balloon design and the need for careful calculations and adjustments.
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For a lab I am working on, we are designing a high-altitude research balloon.

I have some questions though.

1. How do I calculate the volume of a zero-pressure balloon? By taking my mass of the body over the density of the air at altitude, does this give me the volume of gas needed at that altitude? But the zero-pressure has a larger envelope that isn't filled so that the gas expands.

2. From question 1, how would I figure out how much lifting gas i needed at the ground? Is there a formula I can use?

3. How do I compensate for the diurnal cycle to maintain a specific altitude?

Thanks for the help!
 
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surely you mean "zero gauge pressure" ...
This is P_atm = 10^5 N/m^2 at ground!
Bouyant Force is (rho_displaced)(V_displaced)g
As P decreases, V of the gas increases
. . . but not for your payload!
Unless you heat it, lifting effectiveness
will decrease consistently as it rises.

I have only half-baked ideas for T stability!
Good Luck!
 
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