Schools High school plan for engineering help.

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The discussion centers on a high school junior's experiences and inquiries regarding pursuing a career in engineering, particularly after a challenging start in physics. Key points include the distinction between Computer Engineering (CE) and Mechanical Engineering (ME), with CE focusing on computing systems and electronics, while ME encompasses a broader range of mechanical systems. The conversation emphasizes the importance of obtaining a specific engineering degree rather than a general mathematics degree for career prospects. Participants suggest taking as many math courses as possible, particularly AP Calculus, to strengthen foundational knowledge for engineering. The student is also weighing the benefits of taking AP Statistics alongside Calculus versus opting for AP Government and history courses. Lastly, there is curiosity about admission requirements and competitive scores for prestigious universities like UCLA, USC, Berkeley, CalTech, and Cal Poly Pomona, with expectations for high SAT and ACT scores for top-tier schools. Overall, the discussion highlights the importance of targeted coursework and the realities of self-directed learning in advanced subjects.
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I'm a junior in high school just enrolling in the Physics course this year (after failing/dropping AP physics the first few weeks... I'll save that for next year), and I love it. My first two years of high school I moved back and forth from Los Angeles to other cities, so my knowledge of science/GPA for 9th and 10th grade are mediocre. (3.3GPA)

After settling in a school this year (my first year of HS without moving) I discovered computer programming, too, and finally set my eyes on a career for engineering.

The first question I propose is: What is the difference between Computer and Mechanical Engineering? (goals, salary...) I liked programming, but I'm unsure of what mechanical engineering does - seems kind of broad, my teacher says they also use programming.

Number two: To pursue a career in engineering, would it be better to just major in Mathematics or Applied Math to keep your opportunities general, or would a specific category be better?

Another: Next year I'm taking Computer Programming and AP Calculus B/C... But for engineering, my counselor recommend I take BOTH Calculus and AP Statistics ("The easiest AP Class") which would look better to my interests, but I would have to sacrifice AP Government or take gov't it during summer school. Anyways: Should I take two AP math classes, or is two maths superfluous and instead take AP Calculus and AP history?

Finally: I wish to apply to UCLA, USC (I got mail from them saying I would be strong for their student body. Probably nothing, though.), Berkley, CalTech (A gamble..), and Cal Poly Pomona. If anybody has been accepted into these schools, what was your GPA/SAT/ACT scores?

Sorry for the long string of questions (esp. as my first post) but going to my counselor is such a time killer for me, she's never free. And my physics teacher can't teach very well, he can only teach if we already know a lot of the subject, its frustrating, so most of my Physics knowledge just comes from the textbook, and not from the teacher... Maybe because it is a senior class or something.

Anyways, thanks!
 
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I can help you out with a few questions.

#1. the difference between the 2 should be obvious. CE's design computers/computing related parts etc... and ME's design just about everything, from can openers to car engines even elevators. As for salary comparisons that is very subjective. For the most part they can be the same.

#2. To pursue engineering, you should get an engineering degree. There is no substitute.

You should snoop around the forum a bit to see what others say about the jobs you are interested in (engineering section)
 
op9no2 said:
And my physics teacher can't teach very well, he can only teach if we already know a lot of the subject, its frustrating, so most of my Physics knowledge just comes from the textbook, and not from the teacher... Maybe because it is a senior class or something.

The further you go, the more you learning will be done on your own, and less from your teachers. Thats the way the game works, for better or worse.
 
The difference between Computer and Mechanical engineering is pretty huge. Computer engineers are going to learn a lot about how computers are built and organized, a lot of electronics, signal processing, communications, etc.

Mechanical engineers are going to learn about how mechanical systems are built, thermodynamics, vibrations, etc.

It really depends on whether you liked your electricity/electronics units in high school vs. the mechanics ones.

Q2: Take as many maths as you can, it will only make things easier. Each school should list their entrance requirements, so make sure you check those

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Somewhat off topic, but I couldn't resist:
Physics course this year (after failing/dropping AP physics the first few weeks... I'll save that for next year)
I tried the same thing, and ended with the same results. Fortunately, honors isn't as bad. Was it AP Physics B or C?


But for engineering, my counselor recommend I take BOTH Calculus and AP Statistics ("The easiest AP Class") which would look better to my interests, but I would have to sacrifice AP Government or take gov't it during summer school. Anyways: Should I take two AP math classes, or is two maths superfluous and instead take AP Calculus and AP history?

I would go for Calculus BC, and Government. If you want, you can always take Statistics in college. If you take Gov, you would most likely be able to place out of a general requirement course.

Finally: I wish to apply to UCLA, USC (I got mail from them saying I would be strong for their student body. Probably nothing, though.), Berkley, CalTech (A gamble..), and Cal Poly Pomona. If anybody has been accepted into these schools, what was your GPA/SAT/ACT scores?

I'd be curious about the scores as well...
 
I would assume that Berkeley/Caltech would only take kids that have 2300-2400 SAT and 34-36 ACT scores or something close to that range...
 
Hey, I am Andreas from Germany. I am currently 35 years old and I want to relearn math and physics. This is not one of these regular questions when it comes to this matter. So... I am very realistic about it. I know that there are severe contraints when it comes to selfstudy compared to a regular school and/or university (structure, peers, teachers, learning groups, tests, access to papers and so on) . I will never get a job in this field and I will never be taken serious by "real"...
Yesterday, 9/5/2025, when I was surfing, I found an article The Schwarzschild solution contains three problems, which can be easily solved - Journal of King Saud University - Science ABUNDANCE ESTIMATION IN AN ARID ENVIRONMENT https://jksus.org/the-schwarzschild-solution-contains-three-problems-which-can-be-easily-solved/ that has the derivation of a line element as a corrected version of the Schwarzschild solution to Einstein’s field equation. This article's date received is 2022-11-15...

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