Holding nozzle stationary? (applications of COM, bernoulli's,mass flow

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of holding a nozzle stationary under specific conditions, referencing a problem that calculates the force required to be approximately 159 lbs. It is noted that an individual's ability to hold this force depends on their weight; if they weigh more than 159 lbs, they can hold it stationary, but if less, they cannot. However, practical experience with a fire hose indicates that while one strong person can hold it, significant effort is required, and the hose's tendency to whip complicates the task. The dynamic nature of the load can increase the force beyond 159 lbs, suggesting that friction and movement necessitate additional support. Overall, while theoretically possible, holding the nozzle stationary is challenging in practice.
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http://baen.tamu.edu/users/gilley/BAEN%20340%20Fluid%20Mechanics/Handout%20Items/Example%20Momentum%20Problem%20sets.pdf

The problem is shown on page 12 of ^ link. It also shows the solutions. However the question asks could you hold the thing stationary. explain.

The answer is supposed to be yes.

They calculated the force to be about 159lb. This answer "yes" seems ambiguous. Why can the person hold the force stationary?

Does it depend on how much I weigh?
 
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They calculated the force to be 8344 N. That's about 1875 lbs. Obviously a person could not hold it but it certainly could be held by mechanical means.
 


No, the problem on page 12. They calculated it to be about 159lbs. If I weigh >159lbs, I can hold it stationary anything less and I can't. Is that how to interpret it?
 


Sorry, I was looking at the wrong problem. I and another person have held a fire hose of that size and about that pressure. It can be held by one person if he is a strong person but it takes large effort. You would not hold it for a long time so you'd better put the fire out fast. So, in general, my answer would be no.

The hose also has a tendency to whip. Since the load then is a moving one, the force can become greater than 159 pounds at times. When you consider friction between you and the ground, it would take more than one person to hold it.
 
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