Homemade DC motor not working! Please help

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Ive spent hours troubleshooting and looking at the motors of my peers to find the culprit to no avail. Wont even get going even though there is a current and the commutator timings are on point. Absolutely clueless, any suggestions considered.
Possible problems that ive already hopefully solved:
.The commutator timings which previously prevented the motor from turning
.The coils are both wrapped in the same direction, continuously wound turns
.short circuits due to the brushes(Paper clips in this case) touching both split rings
.strength of magnets(ive tried both large ferrite magnets and smaller neodymium magnets with smaller surface area)
.Friction has been minimised

Possible issues from my perspective:
.too few turns on coils(50 each side)
.wire too thin(0.3mm) hence too much resistance(the coils get very hot very quickly)
.iron core too heavy/too little torque
.too little voltage(ive tried both 6volt supply and 9volt)
.magnets pulling on iron core preventing spinning(armature getting stuck by permanent magnetic field)

Other things which may be a factor:
Ive cut the iron core into 3 pieces(insulated with tape) trying to reduce eddy current, which may have made the iron core too small and fat increasing its inertial mass, hence too difficult for the induced magnetic field to move. Just a thought.

Ive included the pictures below as references:
 

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You appear to have no stator.
You need something for those electromagnets to pull towards.
Something of iron or steel that is solidly fixed to a position close to where your rotor will be spinning.
You will probably want two of these stators, one for each of you two electron magnets. In each case, they will be positioned so that electromagnet will pull it towards the stator while it is on, then it will cut off just as it reaches the stator.
 
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.Scott said:
You appear to have no stator.
You need something for those electromagnets to pull towards.
Something of iron or steel that is solidly fixed to a position close to where your rotor will be spinning.
You will probably want two of these stators, one for each of you two electron magnets. In each case, they will be positioned so that electromagnet will pull it towards the stator while it is on, then it will cut off just as it reaches the stator.
I held a pair of permanent magnets around the coils where they would be held normally, would that have had the same effect as a stator?
 
Have you searched for and read the other homemade motor threads here on PF?
 
Averagesupernova said:
Have you searched for and read the other homemade motor threads here on PF?
Just got it working thanks to Scott above 👏, proper stator connection and I used 12volts power supply. Made it move but still some improvements to make!
 
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Thecat123 said:
I held a pair of permanent magnets around the coils where they would be held normally, would that have had the same effect as a stator?
The magnets available these days are far stronger than anything you could wind for yourself on an iron core so buy two 'strong' ones (they may cost a bit so don't go mad!).

Don't take offence at the following - some of the points may be glaringly obvious to you- sorry.
The commutator is also quite critical and the angle of the slits (the switching angle) needs to be correct. The change over point should be where the armature is across the NS line of the magnets. Also, clean contacts with the brushes and a good 'circle' to stop bouncing. I can't see the details in the images but are the two halves of the commutator actually isolated from each other on the (Copper?) shaft? You could check that the commutator bits are not shorting to the copper they sit on.
Does the motor spin freely? A sloppy bearing would be better than a tight one - and use maybe light wax polish to lubricate.
When you pass current through the armature coils, is there a reasonably strong magnetic force from it (test with a piece of steel)? A small compass could allow you to check that the fields from the armature are right (not acting against each other)
 

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