How Can an Expression Like ax^2 + b/x^2 + c Be a Perfect Square?

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The discussion centers on determining whether the expression ax^2 + b/x^2 + c can be a perfect square. Participants clarify that the expression cannot generally be transformed into a perfect square unless specific conditions are met, particularly regarding the value of c. An example is provided, showing that the expression can take the form of a perfect square under certain circumstances, specifically when c is chosen correctly. The conversation highlights the importance of careful notation and understanding the structure of the expression to avoid confusion. Ultimately, the key takeaway is that while not universally applicable, specific instances can yield perfect squares from the given expression.
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how do you find the perfect square of say

ax2 + b/x2 + c
??
 
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You can't find the perfect square of that problem precisely, unless you're satisfied with \left(\sqrt{ax^2+\frac{b}{x^2}+c}\right)^2 which I doubt since it's trivial, but take a look at the expansion of

\left(x+\frac{1}{x}\right)^2
 
Miike012 said:
how do you find the perfect square of say

ax2 + b/x2 + c
??
You didn't by chance mean (ax2 + b)/(x2 + c), did you? If so, the lack of parentheses around the numerator and denominator completely confused Mentallic about what you're asking.
 
Mark44 said:
You didn't by chance mean (ax2 + b)/(x2 + c), did you? If so, the lack of parentheses around the numerator and denominator completely confused Mentallic about what you're asking.

That possibility completely skipped my mind :biggrin:
 
Mentallic,
Well, I'm about as puzzled by this problem as you must be. The way I read it, the OP just wants to square the original expression, whatever it is.
 
Nope that is what I ment to say.. I added an example to the paint doc and highlighted the portion in red.

It has to do with finding the surface area of a curve... and basically I was unaware the equation could be turned into a perfect square... so was wondering if there is some pattern I should look for ?
 

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Mark44 said:
Mentallic,
Well, I'm about as puzzled by this problem as you must be. The way I read it, the OP just wants to square the original expression, whatever it is.
I didn't have any doubts about what the OP is trying to do, just what the expression was meant to be once you raised the point.Mike, like I was saying it doesn't work in general that ax2 + b/x2 + c can be turned into a perfect square, but in this case c happened to be the right number for the job.

When you get to the expression

\frac{25}{36}x^8+\frac{1}{2}+\frac{9}{100}x^{-8}

You should realize that it could be of the form \left(ax^4+bx^{-4}\right)^2 where in this case a=\sqrt{\frac{25}{36}}=\frac{5}{6}
b=\sqrt{\frac{9}{100}}=\frac{3}{10}

And all you'd need to do is check to see if 2\cdot \frac{5}{6}\cdot \frac{3}{10} =\frac{1}{2}
 
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