How can I find the wave equation u(x,t) of a string

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The discussion revolves around finding the wave equation U(x,t) for a vibrating string characterized by its linear density, tension, initial velocity, weight, and initial displacement given by a specific sine function. Participants are exploring the formulation of the wave equation and the application of boundary conditions.

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  • Participants discuss the general form of the wave equation, suggesting it should be a sum of sine and cosine functions. There are attempts to derive coefficients Bn through integration, and some express confusion over the resulting expressions and their dependence on initial conditions.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the interpretation of results. Some guidance has been provided regarding the application of boundary conditions and the identification of coefficients, but there remains uncertainty about the specific values of a1 and a2.

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Find the wave equation U(x,t) of a vibrating string with linear density d, tension p, initial velocity zero, weight L and initial displacement

U0(x) = a1*sin(2*pi*x/L)+a2*sin(4*pi*x/L).


Guys, please help me with this task. I did the following procedure:

The U(x,t) solution must me a sum of sine and cosine functions, like

ΣBn*cos(n*pi*a*t/L)*sin(n*pi*x/L).

Then Bn is found with Bn=∫U0(x)*sin(n*pi*x/L)dx. I'm a little lost with all these substitiution that leads me to big integrals with no solution.
 
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Just apply the given boundary conditions to your general expression.
 
I did, but the answer is a sum of sine and cosine times Bn term which is still in terms of a1 and a2. I'm very confused. I did the calculus through Maple.
 
Mutatis said:
I did, but the answer is a sum of sine and cosine times Bn term which is still in terms of a1 and a2. I'm very confused. I did the calculus through Maple.
Please post your working. If I cannot see it then I cannot know what you have wrong or exactly where you are stuck.
Apart from one differentiation, you should not need any calculus.
 
Ok, that was how I did. The ##U(x,t)## solution must me a sum of sine and cosine functions, then $$ U\left(u,t\right) = \sum_{n=0}^\infty B_n \cos\left( \frac {n \pi a t} {L} \right) \sin\left( \frac {n \pi a t} {L} \right)$$ and ##B_n## can be found using $$ B_n = \frac 2 L \int_0^L f(x)\sin\left( \frac {n \pi a t}{L} \right)\, dx$$.
To get ##B_n## I applied ##f(x)## on the second equation above: $$B_n = \frac 2 L \{ a_1 \int_0^L \sin\left( \frac {2 x \pi }{L} \right) \sin\left( \frac {n x \pi }{L} \right) \, dx + a_2 \int_0^L \sin\left( \frac {4 x \pi }{L} \right) \sin\left( \frac {n x \pi }{L} \right) \, dx \}$$. These two integrals I used Maple to get the result, and it returned me: $$B_n = \frac {a_1} {\pi} \left[ \frac {\sin \left( n \pi - 2 \pi \right)} {\left( n - 2 \right)} - \frac {\sin \left( n \pi - 2 \pi \right)} {\left( n + 2 \right)} \right] + \frac {a_1} {\pi} \left[ \frac {\sin \left( n \pi - 4 \pi \right)} {\left( n - 4 \right)} - \frac {\sin \left( n \pi + 4 \pi \right)} {\left( n + 4 \right)} \right] $$. That was I found. Should I apply the ##B_n## on the ##U(x,t)## equation now?
 
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Mutatis said:
and Bn can be found using
Sure, but that's a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
You have at t=0 ##a_1\sin(2\pi x/L)+a_2\sin(4\pi x/L)=\Sigma B_n\sin(n\pi x/L)##.
Can you not write down the values of the Bn by inspection?
 
I've tried it. But that's what is getting me confuse. ##B_n = a_1, a_2## then? Thank you the help. It's the first exercise that I'm really stuck about vibrating waves.
 
The wave equation is $$ U(x,t) = a_1 \cos \left( \frac {2 \pi x a t} {L} \right) \sin \left( \frac {2 \pi x} {L} \right) + a_2 \cos \left( \frac {4 \pi x a t} {L} \right) \sin \left( \frac {4 \pi x} {L} \right) $$ with ##n = 2,4##. Do you have some tip to find ##a_1## and ##a_2##?
 
Mutatis said:
I've tried it. But that's what is getting me confuse. ##B_n = a_1, a_2## then?.
Well, B2=a1, B4=a2, and the rest are zero.
Mutatis said:
Do you have some tip to find a1 and a2
Those are given unknowns. You are not expected to find values for them. You have the answer already.
 
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Thank you!
 

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