How Can I Solve These Challenging Physics Problems?

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The discussion revolves around two challenging physics problems related to static friction and motion. The first problem involves calculating the minimum revolutions per minute required for riders in a spinning cylinder to avoid dropping when the floor falls away, using the coefficient of static friction. The second problem focuses on designing a curved roadway that prevents cars from sliding on ice, requiring the determination of the minimum radius and banking angle. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the forces at play, including friction and centripetal force, to solve these problems. Overall, the thread highlights the need for guidance in applying physics concepts to practical scenarios.
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Hey everyone, I'm pretty new here, I've stopped by a couple times before to browse the other problems.

In my physics class, my teacher gave out about 10 problems, and most of them I was able to get by. I've looked at em...tried em out...decided to go on with other problems, and now I'm down to these 2 darn problems lol.

If anyone can post some hints or pointers on how i might go about solving these, it would be greatly appreciated.

thanks :smile:


3.) In an amusement-park ride, riders stand with their backs against the wall of a spinning vertical cylinder. The floor falls away and the riders are held up by friction. If the radius of the cylinder is 5.0 m, find the minimum number of revolutions per minute to prevent riders from dropping when the coefficient of static friction between a rider and the wall is 0.45.


5.) A civil engineer is asked to design a curved section of roadway that meets the following conditions: With ice on the road, when the coefficient of static friction between the road and rubber is 0.07, a car at rest must not slide into the ditch and a car traveling less than 55 km/h must not skid to the outside of the curve. What is the minimum radius of curvature of the curve and at what angle should the road be banked?



I really appreciate any help that people have. I'm sorry if this has already been posted, I've been at these problems for a while, and my eye's are strained worse than any clear eye's commercial could ever portray.


thanks again,


-Scott
 
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"Coefficient of static friction" is the number multiplied by the "normal" force to get the friction force. In this problem, you need the friction force to overcome the person's weight: 9.8*mass. with 9.8*mass= 0.45*force of wall, you get
force of wall= 9.8*mass/0.45.

Now, what formula do you know for calculating centrifugal force (or its twin centripetal force)? That is the "force of wall" above.

For the second problem, its much the same thing. Here you are given the speed (55 km/hr) and asked to find the smallest radius that will not cause too much centrifugal force.
 


Hello Scott,

Thank you for reaching out for help with these problems. It can definitely be frustrating when you get stuck on a few problems after being able to solve the others. It sounds like you've put in a lot of effort and I'm sure you'll be able to figure out these last two with a little more guidance.

For the first problem, think about the forces acting on the riders as the floor drops away. The riders are being held up by friction, so you'll need to use the coefficient of static friction to calculate the maximum frictional force that can be exerted on the riders. This force will need to equal the weight of the riders in order for them to stay in place. From there, you can use the radius and the speed of rotation (in revolutions per minute) to determine the minimum speed needed to prevent the riders from dropping.

For the second problem, you'll need to consider the forces acting on a car as it travels around a curved section of roadway. The maximum frictional force will need to be greater than or equal to the force required to keep the car from sliding into the ditch or skidding to the outside of the curve. This will depend on the angle of banking and the radius of curvature of the curve. You can set up equations for each scenario and solve for the minimum radius and angle.

I hope this helps point you in the right direction. Best of luck with your physics class! Remember to take breaks and give your eyes a rest. Sometimes a fresh perspective can help you tackle a problem more effectively. Keep up the good work!
 
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