How can the telescopes take photos of distant galaxies?

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The discussion revolves around the question of how telescopes capture images of distant galaxies and nebulae without nearby stars obstructing the view. Participants explore the implications of distance, the size of stars, and the nature of intergalactic space in relation to imaging distant astronomical objects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question how photos of distant galaxies can be taken without nearby stars blocking the view, suggesting that it seems improbable given the vast number of stars.
  • One participant notes that space is extremely vast compared to the amount of matter it contains, implying that the chances of a star obstructing the view are low.
  • Another participant argues that individual stars are often not visible in images unless they are very large and bright, which are rare occurrences.
  • It is mentioned that most observable galaxies lie outside the galactic plane, where most stars in the Milky Way reside, indicating that intergalactic space is largely devoid of stars.
  • Some participants assert that foreground stars are common in images of both internal and external objects of the Milky Way, challenging the idea that such images are typically unobstructed.
  • One participant expresses disagreement with the notion that only very bright stars are visible, suggesting that stars of various sizes and luminosities appear in images.
  • A participant offers to share examples of images that include foreground stars, indicating that such occurrences are frequent.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the visibility of stars in images of distant galaxies and nebulae. While some argue that foreground stars are often present, others maintain that they are typically not visible unless they are exceptionally large or bright. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on assumptions about the distribution of stars and the nature of imaging in astronomy, which may not be fully explored or defined. The discussion includes references to specific examples and external sources for further information.

Prog47
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So how can the photos of distant galaxies have no nearer stars in front of them? Or photos of nebulae?
I feel like there are so many stars.that it would be impossible to take a photo of a distant object without a star in front of the photo blocking the way. Or is it luck that there are no stars between here and the photos they took?
What about photos of the deep space? Why is there no close star that is too close and takes up the shot in front of the millions of stars in the photo?
 
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The simple answer is space is really really really big compared to the matter it contains, a quick search of sites such as http://astro.physics.uiowa.edu/~www/research/interstellar_medium.html and http://www.its.caltech.edu/~kamion/Ay126/SterlLectures.pdf for example will give some perspective.
 
Prog47 said:
So how can the photos of distant galaxies have no nearer stars in front of them? Or photos of nebulae?

They often do. But individual stars are essentially impossible to see unless they are VERY large and VERY bright. Such stars only form a small percentage of the stars in the Milky Way. Nebulas are also very difficult to see unless they are very close or very large and bright.

In addition, stars are really, really small compared to the ginormous distance between them. At a distance of one light year, a star with the same diameter as the Sun is only 0.0085 degrees across. At 4 light years, just about the distance to the nearest star, it would only be 0.002 degrees across. The chances that a ray of light leaves a source and impacts a star is extremely small.
 
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Most observable galaxies lay outside the galactic plane where most stars in the MW reside. Intergalactic space is mostly devoid of stars.
 
Prog47 said:
So how can the photos of distant galaxies have no nearer stars in front of them? Or photos of nebulae?

you are working from a very poor assumption

Drakkith said:
They often do

indeed ... VERY often do ... there would be very few photos of objects internal or external to
the Milky Way that don't show foreground stars

Drakkith said:
But individual stars are essentially impossible to see unless they are VERY large and VERY bright.

sorry, have to strongly disagree with that... they will be of all sorts of sizes and luminosities eg

opo0833a.jpg


ALL the stars in that image ( other than a tiny few very bright stars in that "larger galaxy) are foreground stars that are within the Milky WayDave
 
davenn said:
sorry, have to strongly disagree with that... they will be of all sorts of sizes and luminosities eg

I'll tentatively agree and try to remember to look up more info on this. :biggrin:
 

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