How Do Curvature and Planes Relate in Vector Problems?

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The discussion revolves around vector calculus problems related to curvature and planes, specifically focusing on a parameterized curve and its properties, including angles between vectors, osculating, normal, and rectifying planes, and curvature in polar coordinates.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of angles between vectors, the role of derivatives, and the nature of the osculating and rectifying planes. Questions arise regarding the normal vector and the implications of the second derivative on the angle between vectors.

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Some participants have made progress on the first problem and are exploring the relationships between the vectors involved. There is ongoing inquiry into the definitions and equations for the osculating and rectifying planes, with some guidance provided on the structure of these planes.

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Participants express uncertainty about specific definitions and calculations, particularly regarding the curvature in polar coordinates and the relationships between different planes associated with the curve.

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Homework Statement



1. Suppose r(t)= (e^t * cost) i + (e^t * sint) j. Show that the angle between r and a never change. What is the angle.

2. Find the equations for the osculating, normal, and rectifying planes of the curve r(t)=t i + t^2 j + t^3 k.

3. Express the curvature of a twice differentiable curve r= f(theta) in the polar terms of r and its derivatives

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Kappa, Torsion, cross product, dot product,...

The Attempt at a Solution



1. So a is the acceleration. Thus, it is the 2nd derivative. So do I find the normal vector of r and a and then take their cross product to find the angle ? What will be the normal vector to r ??

2. So is the osculating plane pretty much the curvature circle ? What is the rectifying plane ?

3. I am kinda lost in the problem. How should I attack this ?
 
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1. So a is the acceleration. Thus, it is the 2nd derivative. So do I find the normal vector of r and a and then take their cross product to find the angle ? What will be the normal vector to r ??

No, just take the second derivative. Do the unit vectors i and j ever change with time? If not, then the time-derivative of r is easy to find.
 
I took the 2nd derivative. But I need to find the angle though ?
 
For any two vectors, u.v=||u||*||v||cos(theta)...where theta is the angle between them...so theta=___?
 
Right. I got it but how do I prove it that it does not change ??
 
Well, what is d(theta)/dt?
 
0 ??

How about the 2nd problem ?
 
I think I got the first problem solved. How about the next 2 ?
 
For number 2, what is the equation of osculating and rectifying plane look like ? I know for the normal plane it is a(x-x0)+b(y-y0)+c(z-z0)=0

Is the rectifying plane formed by the binormal vector and the unit tangent vector T ??

Any suggestion for number 3 ?
 
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I have already solved number 2.

Any suggestion for 3 ?
 

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