How Do I Find the Speed Without Friction?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the speed of a toboggan at point B, starting from rest at point A on an icy hill, with a combined mass of 90 kg. The total mechanical energy at point A is established as 8820 J, which is entirely converted from potential energy to kinetic energy at point B due to the conservation of energy principle. The correct formula to determine the speed from kinetic energy is clarified, emphasizing the need for proper mathematical notation, specifically the inclusion of parentheses in the equation V = sqrt(2K/m).

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some children go tobogganing on an icy hill. They start from rest at the top of the hill as shown in the diagram. The toboggan and children have a combined mass of 90 kg. If friction is small enough to be ignored, determine:
The speed of the toboggan at B
A is at 10m
B is at 0
C is at 3m
I only know the potential energy for A, the mass, and initial velocity
 
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max1020 said:
I only know the potential energy for A, the mass, and initial velocity

You know the potential energy for A relative to where? Relative to B?

If so, then that's enough information.

You know about conservation of energy, right? All of the potential energy of A relative to B will have been converted into kinetic energy (at point B).
 
I know the total mechanical energy for A which is 8820J
 
That is the sum of the kinetic and gravitational potential energy at point A?

If so, then that sum will have the same value at point B.
 
But how do I use that to find speed? Is there a formula for that
 
Conservation of energy: the total of potential energy and kinetic energy is constant. You know the potential energy at the top where the kinetic energy is 0. At a lower point where the potential energy is lower, the kinetic energy is the difference between the two potential energies. You can find the velocity from the kinetic energy.
 
max1020 said:
But how do I use that to find speed? Is there a formula for that

Do you know a formula that relates the K.E. of an object to its velocity?
 
NascentOxygen said:
Do you know a formula that relates the K.E. of an object to its velocity?

Is it
V=sqrt2k/m
 
max1020 said:
Is it
V=sqrt2k/m

No, not quite right...but you could make it right be adding a pair of parentheses. :wink:
 

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