How do waterflow and propellers interact?

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The discussion focuses on the interaction between fixed-mounted propellers and water flow, specifically how to calculate the RPM of a propeller when water flows through it. Participants suggest using empirical charts for propeller selection and consider the need for adjustments when water drives the propeller. Basic calculations can be approached by treating the propeller like a screw, using geometry to relate fluid speed to blade tip speed. The momentum equation for fluids is recommended for understanding the force and torque applied by the water. This information is crucial for designing a propeller for accurate water velocity measurements.
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hi everyone!
need some help about propellers..say i have a fixed mounted propeller and a flow of water with known velocity runs through it.. what would be the rpm of the propeller??.. i know there a re lots of things and parameters to consider... i need some good references, calculations ,and basic formulas..thanks!..any help would be appreciated..

i have to design a propeller to be used in water velocity measurements... so i want to have the blade parameters which corresponds to the design RPM of the propeller..

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dioross
 
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There's all these empirical charts for selecting boat propellers. Here's one I scanned once, can't remember where from.

Tho I wonder if maybe none of that applies when the water's driving the propeller. It would certainly need some rethinking.

I guess you could also do some basic pitch calculations assuming no slippage by treating it like a screw thread. Actually that might be a good approximation since you're not actually transferring power to/from the water. Just make sure the torque is way higher than the friction of the shaft/sensor.

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thank for the reply..
Do you have some ideas about basic calculations?..:)
 
dioross said:
thank for the reply..
Do you have some ideas about basic calculations?..:)

Yea just imagine it's a screw turning through a block of butter. You can work out the geometry easily if you 'unwrap' the cylinder of the blade tips (or some other point) onto a flat surface, then you find the blade tips trace out a triangle. So it's just the ratio of side lengths that gives you the ratio of fluid speed to blade tip speed. I think that's also the ratio of pitch to diameter.

For the force (and thus torque) applied by the water, look up the 'momentum equation' applied to fluids.
 
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