How do we know the degree of a root which is also a point of inflexion?

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The discussion centers on determining the degree of a root at a point of inflection in a polynomial equation. The original poster identifies intercepts and expresses confusion about why the degree 'd' must be specifically 3, despite understanding that it could be any odd number. Responses clarify that while 'd' can be odd, the additional information from the point (1, -16) is crucial for solving the problem. It is emphasized that this point is a stationary point, which provides necessary constraints that limit 'd' to 3. Ultimately, the conclusion is that using all given information is essential for accurately solving such polynomial equations.
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Hey guys, I was looking at an exam I did last year and tried to solve a question, which at the time I couldn't do.

Unfortunately I'm running into the same problem I had during the exam, so hear me out on this one

Question:
The graph below has equation y =ax(x-b)(x+c)^d. Write down the values for a, b, c and d.
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Okay, so there's an intercept at x=-1, so b=-1. There's another intercept at x=3, so c = -3

So, y = ax(x+1)(x-3)^d

Now here's the problem, the answers simply say "d = 3", and then sub in the point (1,-16) and solve for a,

But at x=3 (where it's a point on inflexion), can't the degree (d) be ANY odd number? ie. 3,5,7,9,11,...,999999?

Because that's how I learned polynomials, a point on inflexion at a root means the degree of the root is odd.

And so that's where I messed up, becausing I couldn't figure what value of 'd' I should use.

I must obviously be missing some sort of concept, so can someone please help me out?
 
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karan000 said:
But at x=3 (where it's a point on inflexion), can't the degree (d) be ANY odd number? ie. 3,5,7,9,11,...,999999?

Because that's how I learned polynomials, a point on inflexion at a root means the degree of the root is odd.

And so that's where I messed up, becausing I couldn't figure what value of 'd' I should use.

I must obviously be missing some sort of concept, so can someone please help me out?

You idea is right - it could be any odd number - so far as you have got.

You now have to ask yourself the question, one of the five or so in Polya's 'How to solve it' book

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"Am I using all the information I'm given?"
 
epenguin said:
You idea is right - it could be any odd number - so far as you have got.

You now have to ask yourself the question, one of the five or so in Polya's 'How to solve it' book

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"Am I using all the information I'm given?"

I'm aware of the the point (1,-16),

So as you already know that b=-1 and c=-3, sub in the point to get:

-16 = a(1)(1+1)(1-3)^d
= 2a(-2)^d

Two varibles makes this unsolvable but using guess and check you'll find 3 is the only correct solution (which just makes the whole question practically ****** and pointless).

I was expecting there to be a way to solve the question without guess and check but I guess there isn't any other way...
 
OK, you have used the fact that (1, -16) is a point on the function.

But I think you are supposed to use also the fact that it is a special kind of point, a stationary point.
 
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