How Do You Calculate the Required Amounts for Buffer Solutions?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the required amounts for buffer solutions, specifically focusing on a buffer solution of pH 5.30 using acetic acid and sodium acetate. Participants also explore related calculations involving pH and acidity constants in the context of buffer solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to calculate the moles of sodium acetate needed to prepare a buffer solution with a specified pH.
  • Another participant asks about calculating the acidity constant for buffer solutions, suggesting a focus on Ka, Kw, and Kb.
  • A participant provides a relationship involving Ka and hydrogen ion concentration, indicating the formula Ka = [H+] × [salt]/[acid].
  • Some participants discuss the importance of using the pH value to determine the hydrogen ion concentration and how to apply this in calculations.
  • There are mentions of using the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation to relate pH, acidity, and concentrations of acid and salt.
  • Participants clarify that after finding the concentration of the salt, the number of moles can be calculated using n = c × volume, noting that in this case, the volume is 1 L.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to use pH and acidity constants in their calculations, but there is no consensus on the specific steps to arrive at the final answer for the buffer preparation problem. Some participants express uncertainty and seek clarification on various aspects of the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need to look up the Ka for acetic acid and the relationship between pH and hydrogen ion concentration, indicating potential dependencies on external resources for complete understanding.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students preparing for exams in chemistry, particularly those studying buffer solutions and related calculations involving pH and acidity constants.

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Hey I have been having a lot of trouble in solving these problems and I have exams soon and I really don't know where to start, I know u aint meant to give the answers so instead would someone please go through all of the steps to finish this!
I really need some kinda help, This question was in a quiz and I was so confused as to wat I needa do... I am going to get help from a lecturer as well but inorder to study it I need some help please.

A buffer solution of pH = 5.30 can be prepared by dissolving acetic acid and sodium acetate in water. How many moles of sodium acetate must be added to 1.0 L of 0.25 M acetic acid to prepare the buffer?
The answer is meant to be 0.90mol but I have no Idea how to get to that!

Also one more We mix 100 mL of 0.20 M HBr and 50.0 mL of 0.40 M NaC1O. What is the pH of the resulting solution? Ka(HC1O) = 3.5 x 10-8

for this one i Wrote out the equation... and found that the concentration of HClO was 0.1333 or something like that... then I just had no idea where to go from there, I no that pH=pka- log(acid/base) but I just didnt no how to get to that point... I changed Ka(HClO) to pKa by using -log3.5 x 10- 8 but as I sed not sure where to go.

Could anyone please help
 
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Taryn said:
A buffer solution of pH = 5.30 can be prepared by dissolving acetic acid and sodium acetate in water. How many moles of sodium acetate must be added to 1.0 L of 0.25 M acetic acid to prepare the buffer?
The answer is meant to be 0.90mol but I have no Idea how to get to that!
Do you know how to calculate the acidity consant for buffer solutions?
 
do you mean Kw and Kb coz I think so
 
Taryn said:
do you mean Kw and Kb coz I think so

I mean Ka perhaps you use different notantion? Anyway, the relationship between Ka and [H+ is given by;

K_{a} = [H^{+}] \times \frac{[\text{salt}]}{[\text{acid}]}

Where Ka is the acidity constant of the acid.
 
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I will give it a go... but i wat has me a little stumped is what happens to the pH, I obviously have to use that somewhere don't I?
 
wait a second I understand now I think, I will work it all out and if I have a problem I will just post it on this agen, thanks a lot.
 
Taryn said:
I will give it a go... but i wat has me a little stumped is what happens to the pH, I obviously have to use that somewhere don't I?

You'll need that to work out the hydrogen ion concentration, you'll also need to look up Ka for acetic acid.
 
okay sorry just one more question, I am a little confused... just coz wat will be the [H+], I wrote this, 1.8E-5=[H+] x [salt]/[o.25]

Then after I find the [salt] then I will just use n=c* volume right?
If you can't give me anymore help that's fine!
 
Taryn said:
okay sorry just one more question, I am a little confused... just coz wat will be the [H+], I wrote this, 1.8E-5=[H+] x [salt]/[o.25]
That looks good to me. You need to use you pH value to calculate the [H+], remember that;

pH = -log[H^{+}] \Leftrightarrow [H^{+}] = 10^{-pH}

Taryn said:
Then after I find the [salt] then I will just use n=c* volume right?
If you can't give me anymore help that's fine!
Yes, you would usually do that, but since the solution is dissolve in one litre, the calculation becomes n = c x 1 and therefore in this case; n = c

Do you follow?
 
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thanks very much that was heaps helpful and now I understand wat to do, don't know y I didnt think of that at the time.
 

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