How Do You Calculate the Work Done to Reach Maximum Height on a Planet?

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To calculate the work done to reach maximum height on a planet, one must consider the relationship between work, kinetic energy, and potential energy. The gravitational potential energy is dependent on height and can be expressed using two key equations: PE = mgh for near-surface scenarios and PE = -GMm/r for significant height changes. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding how gravitational potential energy varies with height, particularly when gravity is not constant. Clarifications were made regarding the original problem statement, focusing on how much work is required to achieve height 'h'. The conversation highlights the need to apply the correct formulas based on the specific conditions of the problem.
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A rocket is launched at a planet of 600km radius, 5.29e22 kg mass, and 9.8068 m/s^2 surface gravity such that it reaches a maximum height 'h' with work 'x'. What is the value of 'x'? Ignore air resistance, and gravity is dependent on height.

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Kinetic energy.
Potential energy.
Work.
 
voko said:
Kinetic energy.
Potential energy.
Work.

Could you clarify?
 
Do you know how all these are interrelated? Could you apply that relation to your problem?
 
000 said:

Homework Statement



A rocket is launched at a planet of 600km radius, 5.29e22 kg mass, and 9.8068 m/s^2 surface gravity such that it reaches a maximum height 'h' if it undergoes a constant acceleration of 'x' m/s^2. Ignore air resistance, and gravity is dependent on height.

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Ask yourself, "at what height will it stop accelerating?" The question statement seems to indicate "never". If it always accelerates, what's the maximum height?
 
gneill said:
Ask yourself, "at what height will it stop accelerating?" The question statement seems to indicate "never". If it always accelerates, what's the maximum height?

Sorry, there was a mistake in the question. What I meant to say was how much work must be done in order achieve height 'h'.
 
000 said:
Sorry, there was a mistake in the question. What I meant to say was how much work must be done in order achieve height 'h'.

That's quite a departure from the original statement of the problem :rolleyes:

What do you know about the relationship between work and potential energy?

How does gravitational potential energy relate to the position of the rocket?
 
gneill said:
That's quite a departure from the original statement of the problem :rolleyes:

What do you know about the relationship between work and potential energy?

How does gravitational potential energy relate to the position of the rocket?

The gravitational potential energy is dependent on the square of the height, correct?
 
000 said:
The gravitational potential energy is dependent on the square of the height, correct?

Nope. There are two important relationships for gravitational potential energy that you should be familiar with. The first is for the potential when the field is assumed to be uniform and constant, such as in the region close to the surface of the Earth (in reality it is thus just a very good approximation). The second is the actual Newton's Law version which does not make an approximation.

1) ##PE = mgh~~~~~~~~## For close to the Earth's surface

2) ##PE = \frac{G M}{r}~~~~~~~~## In general for point masses (or ones that behave so)

The second form must used when the change in radial distance is significant (i.e. gravity depends upon height).
 
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2) ##PE = \frac{G M}{r}~~~~~~~~##

This must be ##PE = -\frac{G M m}{r}##
 
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voko said:
This must be ##PE = -\frac{G M m}{r}##

Indeed :smile:
 
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