How Do You Determine Quantum Numbers from Hydrogen Spectra Data?

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The discussion focuses on determining quantum numbers from hydrogen spectra data obtained through a spectroscope experiment. The user seeks to identify the principal quantum numbers n1 and n2 for a red spectral line, with an energy difference (ΔE) of 2.8 x 10^-19 J. Participants suggest using the formula ΔE = 13.6 (1/n1² - 1/n2²) eV and reference the Bohr model for hydrogen energy levels. The user concludes that n1 is likely 2, as visible light transitions originate from this level, while others caution that different transitions exist for higher n2 values. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding quantum transitions in hydrogen's emission spectrum.
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I did a spectroscope experiment with a hydrogen discharge tube.

So far I got this data:

Line 1:

Color=Red

\lambda(nm)=700

\nu(Hz)=4.2*10^{14}

n1=?

n2=?

\Delta{E}(J)=2.8*10^{-19}

E(J)=?

This is only the data for the Red line. I figured if i knew how to do this, I'll be able find the rest of the data for the other lines. I need an explanation on how to get n1. Once I know how, I'll be able to do the rest on my own. Thanks!
 
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Among the spectra of the H atom (Balmer,Rydberg,Pfund,Brackett,...),which has emission/absorption lines in the visible side of the spectrum...?

Daniel.
 
n1=?

n2=?

\Delta{E}(J)=2.8*10^{-19}

Remember that

\Delta{E}=13.6 (\frac{1}{n_1^2}-\frac{1}{n_2^2})~eV

Since n_1 and n_2 can only be integers, there are a finite number of transitions that could give an energy near what you observed. Try a bunch of them out and see what you get.
 
Look up the Bohr Atomic theory for the energies of electronic levels and hence for the energies associated with the transitions between levels (you can even derive the relation from angular momentum quantization, Newton's Laws and Coulomb's Law). You might also try to Google "Rydberg".
 
:confused: Sorry...I don't compute any of the responses.
 
Doesn't your textbook discuss the hydrogen spectrum, and give the n's for the energy levels involved in the visible lines?

Or are you supposed to try to figure out what the n's are from your data, and pretend that you don't know them in advance? In that case SpaceTiger's method is the way to go. If you can tell us what you don't understand about it, someone can probably explain it in more detail. But just saying "I don't compute" doesn't give us much to go on. :confused:
 
jtbell said:
Doesn't your textbook discuss the hydrogen spectrum, and give the n's for the energy levels involved in the visible lines?

Or are you supposed to try to figure out what the n's are from your data, and pretend that you don't know them in advance? In that case SpaceTiger's method is the way to go. If you can tell us what you don't understand about it, someone can probably explain it in more detail. But just saying "I don't compute" doesn't give us much to go on. :confused:
Sorry. Anyways, I figured it out...or atleast I think so. n1=2 because visible light transitions from n=2 therefore all of the n1 for the other lines will be 2(correct me if I am wrong). So I just use that and the data that I obtained and EUREKA! Thanks a lot for your help though guys!
 
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jzq said:
Sorry. Anyways, I figured it out...or atleast I think so. n1=2 because visible light transitions from n=2 therefore all of the n1 for the other lines will be 2(correct me if I am wrong).

Hmm, I don't think so. You're right that as n2 becomes very large, the lines become hard to distinguish, but n2=3 (the balmer alpha line) and n2=4 (the balmer beta line) are quite different.
 
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