How do you find out the exponent if you can't use logs?

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To determine exponents without using logarithms, one can rely on memorizing powers of small numbers. For instance, recognizing that 32 equals 2 raised to the 5th power (2^5) helps solve equations like 2^(2x+1) = 1/32. Similarly, knowing that 27 is 3 raised to the 3rd power (3^3) aids in solving 3^(x-1) = 27. The discussion emphasizes that understanding these relationships is more about familiarity with powers than trial and error. Memorization of these basic exponentials is key to solving such problems efficiently.
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There isn't a problem here, it's an example they gave, but I don't get how you can get the answer without using logs.

2^(2x+1) = 1/32
2^(2x+1) = 2^(-5)

How do they know that it's -5?


Same thing for:

3^(x-1) = 27
3^(x-1) = 3^3



Is it just trial and error? I've tried a bunch of different methods but none have worked.
 
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priceofcarrot said:
There isn't a problem here, it's an example they gave, but I don't get how you can get the answer without using logs.

2^(2x+1) = 1/32
2^(2x+1) = 2^(-5)

How do they know that it's -5?
Because 32 = 25, that's how. So 1/32 = 1/(25) = 2-5.
priceofcarrot said:
Same thing for:

3^(x-1) = 27
3^(x-1) = 3^3
You know that 32 = 9, right, so 33 = 27. That's all it is.
priceofcarrot said:
Is it just trial and error? I've tried a bunch of different methods but none have worked.
No, it's not trial and error. It's useful to know a few powers of small numbers.

2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024 correspond to exponents on 2 of 1, 2, 3, ..., 10

3, 9, 27, 81, 243 correspond to exponents on 3 of 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5

and so on.
 
Is there any simple formula I can use to find that 32 = 2^5? Or similar things, or is it just having an idea which numbers as the exponent would produce which numbers?

Can I just knowing 32 = 2^x find out what x is with a formula?
 
priceofcarrot said:
Is there any simple formula I can use to find that 32 = 2^5? Or similar things, or is it just having an idea which numbers as the exponent would produce which numbers?

Can I just knowing 32 = 2^x find out what x is with a formula?
Just memorize some of the powers, as Mark44 said. It really isn't much different than memorizing addition and multiplication facts (except that the numbers are bigger, of course).
 
Or you might notice that 32 = 2 * 16 = 2 * 2 * 8 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 4 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 = 25.

Do you know how to factor a number into its prime factors?
 
priceofcarrot said:
Is there any simple formula I can use to find that 32 = 2^5? Or similar things, or is it just having an idea which numbers as the exponent would produce which numbers?

Can I just knowing 32 = 2^x find out what x is with a formula?

Sure. You start out with 1, and then multiply it by 2 to get 2. Then you multiply the 2 by 2 to get 4. Then you multiply the 4 by 2 to get eight. Then you multiply the 8 by 2 to get 16. Then you multiply the 16 by 2 to get 32. How many multiplications did you do all together to get 32?
 
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