How Do You Solve the Recurrence Relation a_n = a_{n-1} + n?

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The discussion revolves around solving the recurrence relation a_n = a_{n-1} + n with the initial condition a_0 = 0. Participants are exploring methods to derive a general solution for this relation, which involves concepts from sequences and series.

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  • Participants are attempting to solve the recurrence relation by breaking it down into homogeneous and particular solutions. There are discussions about the relationship between different terms and the necessity of certain constants in the equations. Some participants are also calculating specific values of the sequence directly to identify patterns.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various methods being proposed and critiqued. Some participants suggest that the problem may be simpler than initially thought, while others express confusion about the connections between their approaches. There is no clear consensus on the best method to proceed.

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Some participants have noted a lack of clarity in the problem statement and have requested a more complete formulation of the problem. This has led to discussions about the assumptions underlying the approaches being taken.

Darth Frodo
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Homework Statement


a_{n} = a_{n-1} + n
a_{0} = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


h_{n} = h_{n-1}
t^{2} - t = 0
t=0 t=1
h_{n} = B

p_{n} = bn + c
p_{n} = p_{n-1} + n
bn + c = b(n-1) + n
bn + c = (b+1)n -b

I'm sure I've gone wrong somewhere, I just can't figure out where!
 
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Darth Frodo said:
bn + c = b(n-1) + n
I think there is a "+c" missing on the right side.

I have no idea how the first 2 and the following 4 lines are related to the other groups.
 
Ok sorry I should have explained.

Basically, how I solve a nonhomogenous RR is by ignoring the nonhomogenous term, and solving the homogenous term, 1st group.

Then I solve the homogenous term by picking a particular function of the same order of the nonhomogenous part and call this Pn. This is the second group.

Then, the General Solution to the RR is h_{n} + p_{n}


Yes you're right. So with the correction I get the following.

p_{n} = bn + c
p_{n} = p_{n-1} + n
bn + c = b(n-1) + c + n
bn + c = (b+1)n -b + c

I don't know how to solve for b and c I'm afraid.
 
Hi Darth Frodo, aren't you just trying to solve a simple arithmetic serie ?
u(n)=n
a(n)=1+2+...+n=n(n+1)/2 ?
 
The solution for a_n cannot be expressed as sum of a constant (h_n) and bn+c with constant b and c.

oli4 said:
Hi Darth Frodo, aren't you just trying to solve a simple arithmetic serie ?
Right.
 
Darth Frodo said:

Homework Statement


a_{n} = a_{n-1} + n
a_{0} = 0
Please, give a complete statement of the problem.

My mind-reading skills seem to be eroding lately.
 
If the problem is to solve a_n= a_{n-1}+ n, a_0= 0, then most of what you are doing is unnecessary. Instead, first calculate a few values directly:
a_1= a_0+ 1= 0+ 1= 1
a_2= a_1+ 2= 1+ 2= 3
a_3= a_2+ 3= 3+ 3= 6
a_4= a_3+ 4= 6+ 4= 10
a_5= a_4+ 5= 15

In other words, a_n= 1+ 2+ 3+ 4+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ n[/tex], an arithmetic series as both oli4 and mfb said, for which there is a well known formula
 

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