How do you tackle this integral

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The discussion revolves around finding the integral of the function f(x) = 1/(1+x²)², which is part of a larger surface integral problem. Participants are exploring various methods of integration, including substitution and integration by parts.

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  • Participants discuss attempts at u-substitution and integration by parts, noting that these methods have not yielded satisfactory results. One participant suggests a trigonometric substitution, while others reflect on the implications of the upper bound of 1 for x and whether it affects the integral's behavior.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different integration techniques, with some participants providing suggestions and others questioning the assumptions made about the integral's properties. The discussion remains active, with no clear consensus reached yet.

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Participants are considering the implications of the upper bound on x and discussing the potential challenges posed by the integral's form. There is also a mention of a related problem that involves different substitutions and transformations.

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Homework Statement



Find F(x)

f(x) = 1/(1+x2)2)

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The Attempt at a Solution



It's actually a subproblem of another huge annoying surface integral. I tried u-sub but that landed me nowhere and partial integration led me nowhere aswell... Any pointers?
 
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Gauss M.D. said:

Homework Statement



Find F(x)

f(x) = 1/(1+x2)2)

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



It's actually a subproblem of another huge annoying surface integral. I tried u-sub but that landed me nowhere and partial integration led me nowhere aswell... Any pointers?

Perfect candidate for a trig sub. Use ##x = tan(θ)## so that ##dx = sec^2(θ)dθ##.
 
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well, 1/1+X^2 is the derivative of arctan i believe. i think there has to be a relation. u use integration by parts left u nowhere?
 
Zondrina: Aha, thanks. Obviously it just so happens that in the problem, x had an upper bound of 1. Would we have been out of luck if that hadn't been the case?
 
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Gauss M.D. said:
Aha, thanks. Obviously it just so happens that in the problem, x had an upper bound of 1. Would we have been out of luck if that hadn't been the case?

its a nasty integral u sure you are doing everything correctly? so the integral is 1/1+x^2 only?
 
No, I was referring to Zondrinas trig sub suggestion!
 
Gauss M.D. said:
Aha, thanks. Obviously it just so happens that in the problem, x had an upper bound of 1. Would we have been out of luck if that hadn't been the case?

I don't see any discontinuity in the integrand at all, so I don't think it would matter.
 
Right right, we're using tan and not some other trig function. My bad again. Thanks a ton :)
 
Gauss M.D. said:
Zondrina: Aha, thanks. Obviously it just so happens that in the problem, x had an upper bound of 1. Would we have been out of luck if that hadn't been the case?

That is a very good question, I don't know the answer to it. I'm going to investigate this.
 
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verty said:
That is a very good question, I don't know the answer to it. I'm going to investigate this.

Sorry, the original question has no trouble because the range of tan is just R. Here is a more applicable problem:

##y = \int {dx \over (1 - x^2)^2}##

##x =? \; sin\theta##
##dx = cos\theta \; d\theta##

##y = \int sec^3\theta \; d\theta##
## = {1 \over 2} [sec\theta \; tan\theta + \int sec\theta \; d\theta] + C##
## = {1 \over 2} [sec\theta \; tan\theta + ln| sec\theta + tan\theta | ] + C##
## = {1\over 2}{x \over 1 - x^2} + {1\over 4} ln | {1+x\over 1-x}| + C##On the other hand, one can make a translation:

##x = u-1##
##dx = du##

##y = \int {dx \over (1 - x^2)^2} = \int{ dx \over (1+x)^2 (1-x)^2} = \int {du \over u^2(2-u)^2}##

After some partial fraction magic:

##y = \int {1 \over 4(2-u)^2} + {1 \over 4u^2} + {1 \over 4u} + {1 \over 4(2-u)} du##
## = {1 \over 4} [ {1 \over 2-u} - {1\over u} + ln|u| - ln|2-u| ] + C##
## = {1 \over 4} [ {2(u-1) \over u(2-u)} + ln| {u \over 2-u} | ] + C##
## = {1 \over 2} {x \over 1 - x^2} + {1 \over 4} ln| {1+x \over 1-x} | + C##

I can't explain it but it's the same answer. Probably it has to do with the behaviour of sin(z) and cos(z) for complex z.
 

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