How Does a Frictionless Surface Affect Bullet Penetration Depth?

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When a 7.00g bullet penetrates a 1:00-kg block of wood held in a vise, it goes 8.00 cm deep due to all kinetic energy being absorbed by the block. However, when the same block is placed on a frictionless surface, the bullet's kinetic energy is shared between moving the block and penetrating the wood. This means the penetration depth will be less than 8 cm in the second scenario. To find the new depth, one must apply conservation of kinetic energy and momentum principles. The discussion emphasizes the importance of accounting for the block's movement on a frictionless surface when calculating penetration depth.
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Homework Statement



A 7.00g bullet, when fired from a gun into a 1:00-kg block of wood held
in a vise, penetrates the block to a depth of 8.00 cm. This block of wood
is placed on a frictionless horizontal surface, and a second 7.00g bullet is
fired from the gun into the block. To what depth will the bullet penetrate
the block in this case?

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The Attempt at a Solution


It looks deceptively simple, but I thought the answer was the same at 8 cm. I think it is wrong? Am I?
 
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Oerg said:

Homework Statement



A 7.00g bullet, when fired from a gun into a 1:00-kg block of wood held
in a vise, penetrates the block to a depth of 8.00 cm. This block of wood
is placed on a frictionless horizontal surface, and a second 7.00g bullet is
fired from the gun into the block. To what depth will the bullet penetrate
the block in this case?

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


It looks deceptively simple, but I thought the answer was the same at 8 cm. I think it is wrong? Am I?

Yes, you are wrong.

In the first case all of the Kinetic Energy is absorbed in the block decelerating the bullet.

In the second case since there is no friction your kinetic energy will go into moving the block AND being stopped within the wooden block.

You know from the first case that the stopping power of the wood in terms of the velocity of the bullet.

If you construct your equations to conserve Kinetic Energy - including the deceleration times mass times the unknown distance - and Momentum conservation, you should expect to be able to solve for the depth in the free moving block.
 
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