How Does Friction Affect Energy Conversion on an Inclined Plane?

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The discussion focuses on the mechanics of two connected boxes on an inclined plane, analyzing the effects of friction on energy conversion. The tension in the string is initially calculated as 100N, based on the weight of the hanging box. The forces acting on the box on the plane include gravitational components and friction, with confusion surrounding the correct frictional force, which should be calculated using kinetic friction once the box begins to slide. When the string is cut, the thermal energy converted during the slide is debated, with corrections leading to a final thermal energy of 15J. The kinetic energy of the box at the bottom of the incline is also discussed, with calculations yielding different results based on the frictional force used.
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Two 10 kilogram boxes are connected by a massless string that passes over a massless frictionless pulley as shown above. The boxes remain at rest, with the one on the right hanging vertically and the one on the left 2.0 meters from the bottom of an inclined plane that makes an angle of 60° with the horizontal. The coefficients of kinetic friction and static friction between the Ieft hand box and the plane are 0.15 and 0.30, respectively. You may use g = 10 m/s2, sin 60° = 0.87, and cos 60° = 0.50.
a. what is the tension T in the string?
b. Draw and label all forces acting on the box that is on the plane.
c. Determine the magnitude of the frictional force acting on the box on the plane (when it is at rest)

The string is then cut and the box slides down the plane.
d. Determine the amount of mechanical energy that is converted into thermal energy during the slide to the bottom.
e. Determine the kinetic energy of the box when it reaches the bottom of the plane.



KE= mv2/2
NonConservative Work = deltaKE + delta PE
Work = Force * distance




a. I said 100N, but i am not completely sure. I only said it because i thought the tension was constant throughout the whole string, and since T = mg in the hanging block because it was at rest, i said T = 100

b. i have normal force = mgcos60
and mgsin60 pointing down the slope with frictional force

c. I said 13N because it is at rest and mgsin60+force of friction should equal T, but using the coeffictients of friction and the normal force I'm getting 15N ?

d. I said it should be 26J because of 13N times 2m, but i remembered that the frictional force would be kinetic, so FN*coefficient of kinetic = 7.5N, so the thermal energy would be 15J ?

e. I said 148J using -26J as the WNC but i got 159J using the other frictional force as the nonconservative force.?/?


I know how to get the answers I'm just confused as to which ones are right. Any help or insight on this would be great. Thanks.
 
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rvhockey said:
a. I said 100N, but i am not completely sure. I only said it because i thought the tension was constant throughout the whole string, and since T = mg in the hanging block because it was at rest, i said T = 100
Good thinking!

b. i have normal force = mgcos60
and mgsin60 pointing down the slope with frictional force
What about the force from the string?

c. I said 13N because it is at rest and mgsin60+force of friction should equal T,
Good!
but using the coeffictients of friction and the normal force I'm getting 15N ?
Careful here. μN gives the maximum possible static friction force between the two surfaces--but to find the actual friction force requires more information (as above).

d. I said it should be 26J because of 13N times 2m,
Oops. The 13N was a static friction force--not relevant once the box moves.
but i remembered that the frictional force would be kinetic, so FN*coefficient of kinetic = 7.5N, so the thermal energy would be 15J ?
Much better.

e. I said 148J using -26J as the WNC but i got 159J using the other frictional force as the nonconservative force.?/?
Using static friction was an error, but you have it now.
 
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