How Does Newton's Third Law Apply to a Particle on Different Slopes?

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A particle of mass 4kg is towed up a 30-degree incline by a force of 4g N, and upon reaching the horizontal, the same force continues to act. The coefficient of friction on the incline is calculated as 1/√3. Discussions reveal that while attempting to calculate the acceleration, some participants arrived at a value of g√3/3, which is double the expected result of g√3/6. The calculations involve analyzing the forces acting on the particle, including friction and gravitational components. Overall, the consensus supports the original coefficient of friction and the need for further clarification on the acceleration calculation.
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Homework Statement



A particle of mass 4kg is being towed at a constant speed up a rough plane inclined at 30 degrees to the horizontal by a force 4g N acting parallel to the slope. At the top of the slope the particle moves onto a rough horizontal slope with the same coefficient of friction. If the towing force continues to act in the same direction, show that the particle undergoes an acceleration of

\frac{g\sqrt{3}}{6} m.second square

Homework Equations



basically use F=ma and get the answer where m=4kg

The Attempt at a Solution



1. On the inclined plane coefficient of friction was calculated as 1/ (sqrt 3)

2.Since they say the force of 4g will be acting in the same direction even when it is on the horizontal plane i took this too mean that 4g will be acting at an angle 30 degrees to the horizontal when the particle is on a horizontal plane..

This way Reaction force would be 4g-4gsin30= 2g

And net force would be equal too

4a= 4gcos30 - 2g/ (sqrt 3)


which makes a = \frac{g\sqrt{3}}{3} m.second square which is twice the answer that is given.


Can some one please check this out. Its from an A level Mechanics book
 
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For what it's worth, I also ended up with your answer that a = g\sqrt{3}/3
 
ecy5maa said:

Homework Statement



A particle of mass 4kg is being towed at a constant speed up a rough plane inclined at 30 degrees to the horizontal by a force 4g N acting parallel to the slope. At the top of the slope the particle moves onto a rough horizontal slope with the same coefficient of friction. If the towing force continues to act in the same direction, show that the particle undergoes an acceleration of

\frac{g\sqrt{3}}{6} m.second square

Homework Equations



basically use F=ma and get the answer where m=4kg

The Attempt at a Solution



1. On the inclined plane coefficient of friction was calculated as 1/ (sqrt 3)


Can some one please check this out. Its from an A level Mechanics book

Show how you calculate the coefficient of friction, μ.

I get, \mu=\frac{2}{\sqrt{3}}\,.

Added in an edit. Ignore this post!
 
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SammyS said:

Show how you calculate the coefficient of friction, μ.

I get, \mu=\frac{2}{\sqrt{3}}\,.

I ended up with μ = 1/√3, which agrees with the original poster. (The pulling force must be equal in magnitude to the frictional force plus the component of gravitational force parallel to the slope.) But I'll let ecy5maa comment further.
 
collinsmark said:
I ended up with μ = 1/√3, which agrees with the original poster. (The pulling force must be equal in magnitude to the frictional force plus the component of gravitational force parallel to the slope.) But I'll let ecy5maa comment further.

I agree.

μ = 1/√3
 
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