MHB How does Remmert derive the Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality in complex functions?

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The discussion focuses on understanding Remmert's derivation of the Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality in the context of complex functions. Participants analyze the equation involving the inner product and its implications for proving the inequality. There is a concern about whether the derived expressions adequately demonstrate the full inequality, as some argue that only half of it is shown. Clarifications are provided regarding the positivity of the inner product and the conditions under which the inequality holds. The conversation emphasizes the need for a complete proof that encompasses all aspects of the Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality.
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I am reading Reinhold Remmert's book "Theory of Complex Functions" ...

I am focused on Chapter 0: Complex Numbers and Continuous Functions ... and in particular on Section 1.3: Scalar Product and Absolute Value ... ...

I need help in order to fully understand Remmert's derivation of the Cauchy-Schwartz Inequality ...

The start of Remmert's section on Scalar Product and Absolute Value reads as follows:

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In the above text by Remmert we read the following:

" ... ... Routine calculations immediately reveal the identity

$$ \langle w, z \rangle^2 + \langle i w, z \rangle^2 = \mid w \mid^2 \mid z \mid^2$$ for all $$w,z \in \mathbb{C} $$

which contains as a special case the

Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality

$$\mid \langle w, z \rangle \mid \le \mid w \mid \mid z \mid$$ ... ...

... ... ... "
Now ... although it doesn't quite ft the language of a "special case" ...

... if $$\langle i w, z \rangle^2 \ge 0$$ ... then ... we could argue that ...$$\langle w, z \rangle^2 \le \mid w \mid^2 \mid z \mid^2$$ ... ...Is that the right move?... BUT ... can we be sure that ..

... $$\langle i w, z \rangle^2 = (v^2 x^2 - 2uxvy + u^2 y^2 ) \ge 0 $$ where we have $$w = u + iv$$ and $$z = x + iy$$ ...

... We have to worry that it might be the case that $$2uxvy \gt (v^2 x^2 + u^2 y^2 )$$ ...

... problem with suggested move above! ...Can some please clarify ... and indicate how to show that

$$\langle w, z \rangle^2 + \langle i w, z \rangle^2 = \mid w \mid^2 \mid z \mid^2$$

$$\Longrightarrow \mid \langle w, z \rangle \mid \le \mid w \mid \mid z \mid$$ ... ...
Hope that someone can help ...

Peter
 

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Peter said:
can we be sure that ..

... $$\langle i w, z \rangle^2 = (v^2 x^2 - 2uxvy + u^2 y^2 ) \ge 0 $$ where we have $$w = u + iv$$ and $$z = x + iy$$ ...

... We have to worry that it might be the case that $$2uxvy \gt (v^2 x^2 + u^2 y^2 )$$ ...
The inner product $\langle w,z\rangle$ is by definition real, so its square must necessarily be positive (or zero). In fact, $$\langle i w, z \rangle^2 = (v^2 x^2 - 2uxvy + u^2 y^2 ) = (vx-uy)^2 \geqslant 0 $$.
 
Opalg said:
The inner product $\langle w,z\rangle$ is by definition real, so its square must necessarily be positive (or zero). In fact, $$\langle i w, z \rangle^2 = (v^2 x^2 - 2uxvy + u^2 y^2 ) = (vx-uy)^2 \geqslant 0 $$.
Thanks for the help, Opalg ...

Peter
 
Opalg said:
The inner product $\langle w,z\rangle$ is by definition real, so its square must necessarily be positive (or zero). In fact, $$\langle i w, z \rangle^2 = (v^2 x^2 - 2uxvy + u^2 y^2 ) = (vx-uy)^2 \geqslant 0 $$.

I have just become aware that the argument:

$$ \langle w, z \rangle^2 + \langle i w, z \rangle^2 = \ \mid w \mid^2 \mid z \mid^2$$ for all $$w,z \in \mathbb{C} $$

$$\Longrightarrow$$ $$\langle w, z \rangle^2 \le \ \mid w \mid^2 \mid z \mid^2$$

$$\Longrightarrow$$ $$\langle w, z \rangle \ \le \ \mid w \mid \mid z \mid$$does not show that $$\mid \langle w, z \rangle \mid \ \le \ \mid w \mid \mid z \mid $$

... since

... ... $$\mid \langle w, z \rangle \mid \ \le \ \mid w \mid \mid z \mid$$

$$\Longrightarrow - \mid w \mid \mid z \mid \ \le \ \mid \langle w, z \rangle \mid \ \le \ \mid w \mid \mid z \mid$$... so ... effectively we have only shown "half" of the Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality ...Can someone please demonstrate a full proof of the inequality ... preferably demonstrating that $$- \mid w \mid \mid z \mid \ \le \ \mid \langle w, z \rangle \mid$$ ...Peter
 
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Peter said:
I have just become aware that the argument:

$$ \langle w, z \rangle^2 + \langle i w, z \rangle^2 = \ \mid w \mid^2 \mid z \mid^2$$ for all $$w,z \in \mathbb{C} $$

$$\Longrightarrow$$ $$\langle w, z \rangle^2 \le \ \mid w \mid^2 \mid z \mid^2$$

$$\Longrightarrow$$ $$\langle w, z \rangle \ \le \ \mid w \mid \mid z \mid$$does not show that $$\mid \langle w, z \rangle \mid \ \le \ \mid w \mid \mid z \mid $$

... since

... ... $$\mid \langle w, z \rangle \mid \ \le \ \mid w \mid \mid z \mid$$

$$\Longrightarrow - \mid w \mid \mid z \mid \ \le \ \mid \langle w, z \rangle \mid \ \le \ \mid w \mid \mid z \mid$$... so ... effectively we have only shown "half" of the Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality ...Can someone please demonstrate a full proof of the inequality ... preferably demonstrating that $$- \mid w \mid \mid z \mid \ \le \ \mid \langle w, z \rangle \mid$$ ...
If $a$ and $b$ are real numbers, then $a^2\leqslant b^2$ always implies $|a|\leqslant |b|$ (because $(-a)^2 = a^2 = |a|^2$).

In this case, if $\langle w,z\rangle^2 \leqslant |w|^2|z|^2$, then taking the positive square root of both sides it follows that $|\langle w,z\rangle| \leqslant |w||z|$.
 
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