How Does Slipping Affect the Acceleration of a Rolling Ball?

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The discussion centers on analyzing the effects of slipping on the acceleration of a rigid ball subjected to two opposing forces. The ball, with a mass of 6 kg and a radius of 0.23 m, experiences forces of 55 N and 20 N, leading to calculations of linear and angular acceleration. The key equations involve Newton's laws and the moment of inertia, but the friction force does not align with the expected static friction value, raising questions about the assumptions made. It is noted that if the ball slips, the relationship between linear and angular acceleration (aCM = αR) may not hold true. The conversation highlights the complexities of friction and motion in rigid body dynamics.
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Homework Statement


A rigid ball of mass m = 6kg and radius R = .23 m is sitting on a table. The mass center and geometric center of the ball coincide, but the radius of gyration about its mass center is k = .19 m. The ball is initially at rest. There is a coefficient of friction μ = .435 between the ball and the table. Two forces are then applied to the ball: a force F1 = 55 N to the right at the center of mass, and a force F2 = 20 N to the left at the very top of the ball. Given this, determine the angular acceleration of the ball and the linear acceleration of the ball's center at the instant the forces are first applied.


Homework Equations


I=mk^2 where k is the radius of gyration.
Acceleration point relation for rigid bodies
ƩF=ma
ƩM=Iα

The Attempt at a Solution


The acceleration at the point of contact must be zero. Because the ball is initially at rest, this means that the acceleration at the center of the ball is simply αR because the ball is a rigid body. Assume that the friction force f, which acts at the point of contact, points to the left.

Next, we use Newton's law in the x and y directions. This gives F1 - F2 - f = ma = mrα and N - mg = 0. Then we take the sum of the moments about the center of the ball, which yields F2R - fR = mk2α. Without making the assumption that f = μN, we solve these three equations for 3 unknowns to find that N = 58.8 Newtons, f = -12.2 Newtons and α = 34.2 rad/s2.

This is where I get lost, because clearly f≠μN. How do I reconcile this? What assumptions am I making that are incorrect?
 
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CaptainP said:

Homework Statement


A rigid ball of mass m = 6kg and radius R = .23 m is sitting on a table. The mass center and geometric center of the ball coincide, but the radius of gyration about its mass center is k = .19 m. The ball is initially at rest. There is a coefficient of friction μ = .435 between the ball and the table. Two forces are then applied to the ball: a force F1 = 55 N to the right at the center of mass, and a force F2 = 20 N to the left at the very top of the ball. Given this, determine the angular acceleration of the ball and the linear acceleration of the ball's center at the instant the forces are first applied.


Homework Equations


I=mk^2 where k is the radius of gyration.
Acceleration point relation for rigid bodies
ƩF=ma
ƩM=Iα

The Attempt at a Solution


The acceleration at the point of contact must be zero.

The title of your thread is "rolling ball with slipping" If the ball slips, the point of contact accelerates, and the rolling condition aCM=αR does not hold.

CaptainP said:
Because the ball is initially at rest, this means that the acceleration at the center of the ball is simply αR because the ball is a rigid body. Assume that the friction force f, which acts at the point of contact, points to the left.

Next, we use Newton's law in the x and y directions. This gives F1 - F2 - f = ma = mrα and N - mg = 0. Then we take the sum of the moments about the center of the ball, which yields F2R - fR = mk2α. Without making the assumption that f = μN, we solve these three equations for 3 unknowns to find that N = 58.8 Newtons, f = -12.2 Newtons and α = 34.2 rad/s2.

This is where I get lost, because clearly f≠μN. How do I reconcile this? What assumptions am I making that are incorrect?

You determined the angular acceleration and force of static friction of the rolling ball, that does not slip. Is the static friction equal to μN?


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