How Does Torque Balance Apply to an Upside Down Vertical Pendulum?

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The discussion centers on the application of torque balance to an upside down vertical pendulum, where the mass is at the top. The user questions the torque balance equation provided by their professor, suggesting that it should incorporate the moment of inertia, leading to a revised equation involving the length of the pendulum. They clarify that without the external torque, the angular acceleration equation simplifies to a form dependent on gravitational forces. The user concludes that the angle is measured from the highest point, which explains the absence of a negative sign in the equation. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of correctly applying torque and angular motion principles in pendulum dynamics.
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hi pf!

i am looking at a simply problem dealing with an upside down vertical pendulum of length ##L## having mass ##m## at the top. i believe my professor wrote that a torque balance yields ##m \ddot{\theta} = mg\sin \theta + f(t)## where ##f## is a torque (i think) and ##\theta## is the angle the pendulum makes with the vertical axis.

my question is how the left hand side works? isn't Newton's second law extrapolated for angular rotation as moment of inertia times angular acceleration equals sum of torques? if so, wouldn't we have ##m L^2 \ddot{\theta} = mgL\sin \theta + f(t)## as the torque balance?
 
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hey, yeah, I think you're right. In any case, without the torque it should be
\ddot{\theta}=\frac{g}{L} \sin{\theta}
So maybe your professor forgot to write the ##L## in there.

edit: p.s. I'm guessing the angle is being measured from the highest point, hence no negative sign on the right hand side
 
thanks for your input! makes me feel better about it.
 
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