How Fast Does the Lighter Block Travel When the Spring Relaxes?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the speed of a lighter block (mass m) when a spring with force constant k relaxes after being stretched by a distance x. The conservation of momentum and energy principles are applied, leading to the equation v1 = sqrt(k*x^2/(9*m)). The user initially misapplied the kinetic energy formula, confusing the relationship between the velocities of the two blocks. The correct substitution and application of energy conservation principles clarify the solution.

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Homework Statement


A system consists of two blocks, of masses m and 2m, attached to the ends of a massless spring with a force constant k. The system is placed on a horizontal frictionless surface. Initially, the spring is relaxed. The blocks are then pulled apart an “extra” distance x and simultaneously released from the state of rest.

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Find the speed v1 of the block of mass m at the instant the spring is relaxed again. Answer in terms of m, k, and x.

Homework Equations


U_spring = 1/2*k*x^2
K = 1/2*m*v^2
m_1*v_1+m_2*v_2 = m_1*v_1' + m_2*v_2'

The Attempt at a Solution


Momentum is conserved and initially 0 so

m*v_1 = 2m*v_2

and

v_1 = 2v_2

Potential energy in the compressed spring is equal to 1/2*k*x^2 and when the spring reaches equilibrium the potential is 0 and the kinetic energy is equal to 1/2*m*v_1^2+1/2*(2m)*(2v_1)^2 so

1/2*k*x^2 = 1/2*m*v_1^2+4*m*v_1^2

= k*x^2 = m*v_1^2+8*m*v_1^2

= k*x^2 = 9*m*v_1^2

and finally

v_1 = sqrt(k*x^2/(9*m))

Where am I going wrong?
 
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If ##v_1 = 2v_2##, then why is ##\frac{1}{2}kx^2 = \frac{1}{2} mv_1^2+4mv_1^2##?
 
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naianator said:
v_1 = 2v_2

naianator said:
1/2*m*v_1^2+1/2*(2m)*(2v_1)^2

You substituted 2v1 for v2.
 
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AlephNumbers said:
You substituted 2v1 for v2.
Yes! Thank you
 

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