How Fast Does the Lighter Block Travel When the Spring Relaxes?

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The problem involves a system of two blocks with different masses connected by a spring on a frictionless surface. The blocks are initially at rest, and the spring is relaxed before being pulled apart and released. The goal is to determine the speed of the lighter block when the spring returns to its relaxed state, expressed in terms of the masses, spring constant, and displacement.

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and energy principles, questioning the relationships between the speeds of the blocks and the energy equations used. There is a focus on the substitution of variables and the implications of those substitutions on the energy balance.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants examining the correctness of the equations used and clarifying the relationships between the variables. Some guidance has been provided regarding the substitutions made in the equations, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or solution.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationships between kinetic and potential energy in the context of the spring-mass system.

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Homework Statement


A system consists of two blocks, of masses m and 2m, attached to the ends of a massless spring with a force constant k. The system is placed on a horizontal frictionless surface. Initially, the spring is relaxed. The blocks are then pulled apart an “extra” distance x and simultaneously released from the state of rest.

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Find the speed v1 of the block of mass m at the instant the spring is relaxed again. Answer in terms of m, k, and x.

Homework Equations


U_spring = 1/2*k*x^2
K = 1/2*m*v^2
m_1*v_1+m_2*v_2 = m_1*v_1' + m_2*v_2'

The Attempt at a Solution


Momentum is conserved and initially 0 so

m*v_1 = 2m*v_2

and

v_1 = 2v_2

Potential energy in the compressed spring is equal to 1/2*k*x^2 and when the spring reaches equilibrium the potential is 0 and the kinetic energy is equal to 1/2*m*v_1^2+1/2*(2m)*(2v_1)^2 so

1/2*k*x^2 = 1/2*m*v_1^2+4*m*v_1^2

= k*x^2 = m*v_1^2+8*m*v_1^2

= k*x^2 = 9*m*v_1^2

and finally

v_1 = sqrt(k*x^2/(9*m))

Where am I going wrong?
 
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If ##v_1 = 2v_2##, then why is ##\frac{1}{2}kx^2 = \frac{1}{2} mv_1^2+4mv_1^2##?
 
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naianator said:
v_1 = 2v_2

naianator said:
1/2*m*v_1^2+1/2*(2m)*(2v_1)^2

You substituted 2v1 for v2.
 
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AlephNumbers said:
You substituted 2v1 for v2.
Yes! Thank you
 

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