How Fast is the Car Traveling Based on Angle Change?

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The problem involves determining the speed of a car approaching an observer based on the change in the angle of vision. The context is related to trigonometric relationships and rates of change, specifically in a scenario involving a right triangle formed by the observer's line of sight to the car.

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  • Participants discuss different methods of relating the angle of vision to the distance of the car using trigonometric functions. There is an exploration of implicit differentiation and the confusion surrounding the application of derivatives in this context.

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Some participants have offered alternative approaches to the problem, suggesting different trigonometric identities and differentiation techniques. There is an ongoing examination of the results obtained, with one participant expressing concern over an unexpectedly large value for the car's speed.

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Participants note potential typos and clarify the conversion of degrees to radians in their calculations. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the correct application of trigonometric derivatives and the implications of the results derived from their calculations.

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You are 150 feet away from a road. Looking down the road, you notice a car heading in your direction such that the angle formed by your line of vision to the car and the road is 45 degrees, and this angle is increasing at a rate of 10 degrees per second. How fast is the car traveling?

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So I drew the diagram such that I'm standing on the positive side of the x-axis, and such that the car is heading down the y-axis (the road) toward the origin. I'm given [tex]\frac {d\theta}{dt} = 10[/tex], and I want to find [tex]\frac {dy}{dt}[/tex].

What I did was set [tex]\theta = \arctan { \frac {150}{150-\frac{dy}{dt}*t}}[/tex] then tried to take the derivative of that...but the [tex]\frac {dy}{dt}[/tex] term is leaving me confused as to how to derive such a thing. Ideas?
 
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I think it would be simpler to just say [itex]tan(\theta)= y/150[/itex] (I don't know where you got that "120") and use implicit differentiation:
[tex]sec^2(\theta)\frac{d\theta}{dt}= \frac{1}{150}\frac{dy}{dt}[/tex]
 
Thanks; the 120 was a typo which I now fixed. When I do that (I used [tex]\tan{\theta} = 150/y[/tex]), I end up getting something like 3000 ft/s, which I think there is something wrong with... why am I getting such a big number?
 
Remember that the derivative of tan(x) is sec2(x) when x is measured in radians. sec(45)= [itex]\sqrt{2}[/itex] and you are given that [itex]d\theta/dt[itex]= 10 degrees= [itex](\pi/180)*10[/itex] radians so you should get [itex]dy/dt= (150)(2)(\pi/18)[/itex] which is about 52.2[/itex][/itex]
 

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