How Many Air Molecules are Contained in a Smooth Cylinder at Equilibrium?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the number of air molecules in a smooth cylindrical container with a piston under equilibrium conditions. The relevant equations include the ideal gas law (pV=nRT) and the calculation of pressure using force and area. The user initially struggles with determining the correct pressure and volume but eventually resolves the issue by incorporating both atmospheric pressure and the pressure exerted by the mass on the piston. The final calculation yields approximately 4.6 x 10^22 air molecules beneath the piston. This solution highlights the importance of considering all forces and pressures in the system for accurate results.
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Homework Statement


A smooth, well-greased insulated cylindrical container with a metal base has a light (so you can neglect its weight), airtight piston that can frictionlessly move up and down the inside of the container. A mass M = 73 kg sits on top of the piston. The piston has a circular cross-section of area 0.032 m2, and is in equilibrium at a height of 4.7 cm above the base of the cylinder. The cylinder sits in equilibrium in a room that is at atmospheric pressure and a temperature of 22 °C.

How many air molecules are contained inside the cylinder beneath the piston?


Homework Equations



pV=nRT

p= (force)/(area) in N/m^2 Or Pa
Volume of cylinder= pi*r^2*h
A=area
Force = mass*gravity => mg
Avogadro's # = 6.02x10^23
R=8.31 J/(mol K)
T=temp in Kelvin

The Attempt at a Solution



pV=nRT

(m*g)/A)*(pi*r^2*h) = nRT

(mg/A)*(pi*(A/pi)*h) = nRT

(mg/A)*(A*h) = nRT

mgh = nRT

mgh/RT =n

n * avogadro's Number gives molecules.

im not sure what I am doing wrong...
 
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I think your method is correct. Did you convert all your numbers to the correct units?
 
rock.freak667 said:
I think your method is correct. Did you convert all your numbers to the correct units?

I think so, i converted height to meters and temp to kelvin.
 
i think my mistake is in the amount of pressure. i didn't take into account the whole system. how can i calculate the pressure of the entire system? specifically, the pressure of the air inside the cylinder pushing upward on the piston .Edit:
ok i figured it out.
 
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Solution:

pV / RT=n

( ((Atmospheric pressure) + (Pressure of system) ) * (volume at eq) ) / (R*T)

[ (101,325 pa) + ( ((73 kg)*(9.8 m/s^2)) / (.032 m^2) ) * ( ( .032 m^2) * (.047 m) ) ] / ( (8.3 J/mol K)*(295 K) ) = .076 mols

.076 mols * (6.02*10^23 mol^-1) = 4.6*10^22 molecules
 
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