How many different teams can be formed ...?

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The discussion revolves around forming project teams from a group of 5 men and 7 women, with the stipulation that 2 specific women cannot be on the same team. Participants seek clarification on the correct interpretation of the problem statement, particularly regarding team composition of 2 men and either 3 or 7 women. There is confusion about whether the problem allows for teams of 2 men and 3 women or if it mistakenly states 7 women. The calculations presented involve combinatorial methods to determine the number of valid team configurations, but some participants point out that the logic needs to ensure both terms for selecting women are multiplied by the number of ways to choose men. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for a clear problem statement to resolve ambiguities in team formation.
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Homework Statement


One engineering group consists of 5 men and 7 women .
If 2 women refuse to be on the same team together , how many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 3 women ?

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


5 C 2 * 5 C 3 + (2 C 1 * 5 C 2) = 120
Can somebody check my answer please ?
 
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Fatima Hasan said:

Homework Statement


One engineering group consists of 5 men and 7 women .
If 2 women refuse to be on the same team together , how many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 7 women ?

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


5 C 2 * 5 C 3 + (2 C 1 * 5 C 2) = 120
Can somebody check my answer please ?

If there are 7 women in the group and you need 7 women in the team then you have to pick the 2 women who won't serve together. Is there a typo?
 
Dick said:
and you need 7 women in the team
3 women
 
Fatima Hasan said:
One engineering group consists of 5 men and 7 women .
If 2 women refuse to be on the same team together , how many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 7 women ?
Is this the original problem statement? I find it ambiguous. Does
"2 women refuse to be on the same team together"

mean
a) "no two women will work on the same team together" or
b) "two particular women refuse to work on the same team together"

I think
"how many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 7 women"

means
"how many different project teams can be formed if each team must consist of 2 men and 7 women",

but in that case under either option a) or b) the number of teams that can be formed is zero.

So perhaps
"how many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 7 women"

means
"how many teams of at least two people" can be formed from 2 men and 7 women".

(One person does not constituted a team.) In that case the question has different answers under options a) and b).

Is there a type in the problem statement?
Should "how many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 7 women"

read instead
"how many different project teams can be formed consisting of 5 men and 7 women"?

I see you have responded to @Dick while I was typing this. Could you please give us a complete and correct problem statement?
 
tnich said:
how many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 7 women
7 is a typo .
my question is "How many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 3 women "
 
Fatima Hasan said:
7 is a typo .
my question is "How many different project teams can be formed consisting of 5 men and 2 women "

Looking at your answer I would say it's "How many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 3 women" as you said in your first correction. If so your answer has correct parts. It looks like the first term is how many ways to choose the team excluding the 2 women who don't get along. The next term looks like the ways to choose the womens team with those two. But the second term doesn't have any choice of men!? It would really be best if you explained your thinking rather than me guessing it.
 
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Dick said:
Looking at your answer I would say it's "How many different project teams can be formed consisting of 5 men and 3 women" as you said in your first correction. If so your answer has correct parts. It looks like the first term is how many ways to choose the team excluding the 2 women who don't get along. The next term looks like the ways to choose the womens team with those two. But the second term doesn't have any choice of men!? It would really be best if you explained your thinking rather than me guessing it.
The first term is how many ways to choose 2 men (5C2).
The next term is how many ways to choose 3 women , either choosing 3 women without the 2 women who don't get along (5C3) or (+) choosing one women of them and (*) two others (2C1 * 5C2) .
 
Fatima Hasan said:
The first term is how many ways to choose 2 men (5C2).
The next term is how many ways to choose 3 women , either choosing 3 women without the 2 women who don't get along (5C3) or (+) choosing one women of them and (*) two others (2C1 * 5C2) .

Right. But then BOTH of the ways of choosing the women should be multiplied by the way to choose the men, not just the first.
 
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