Engineering How many ways can I flip switch positions to make the motor stop

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The discussion centers on determining the configurations of switches that can stop a motor, with participants noting that there are 16 possible configurations based on 4 switches with 2 positions each. Initially, one user identified six configurations that stop the motor, but others pointed out that more configurations exist. A binary table representation was suggested to clarify which switch positions allow the motor to turn on or off. The conversation also highlighted the importance of analyzing circuit functions to identify short circuits that prevent the motor from operating. Overall, understanding the configurations and their effects on the motor's operation is crucial for solving the problem effectively.
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There is a total of 16 configurations and only a few of them will let the engine turn.

Edit: Hmm, I missed the title of your thread before.
But there are more configurations than you mentioned.
 
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Hi FP :smile: !
Perhaps it would be a good starting point to determine which positions will allow the motor to start.
(also ILS alluded to this)
Once you have that, it should be clearer which positions will shut the motor off.

There is a total of 16 configurations and only a few of them will let the engine turn.
hmmm i wonder where ILS got 16 configs? [hint 2 positions, 4 switches]. Perhaps a useful way to represent this problem is with a binary table with switch & position as inputs and output: "motor ON/OFF"
 
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There is a total of 16 configurations and only a few of them will let the engine turn.

Edit: Hmm, I missed the title of your thread before.
But there are more configurations than you mentioned.

Oops, you're right!

hmmm i wonder where ILS got 16 configs? [hint 2 positions, 4 switches]. Perhaps a useful way to represent this problem is with a binary table with switch & position as inputs and output: "motor ON/OFF"

Fair enough

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5904/motormode.jpg

How's that? :)
 
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Femme_physics said:
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5904/motormode.jpg

How's that?

I like the table. :)

Let's take a look at the first line where you say the motor is turning.
That would be with switches 1,2,3 in position 1, and with switch 4 in position 2.

Can you say how the currents will flow?
 
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Nice drawing. :)

How about the current through switch 1?
Which current will be bigger, the current through switch 1 or the current through switch 2?
 
Well the current through the first switch meets no resistance, therefor it will be much higher. Hmm. Short circuit eh?
 
Yep. Short circuit.
I don't think there will be current left for the motor to turn. ;)

(Poor carton board men that are frying.)
 
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I agree. :) Is that the only blunder I made?
 
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Well, I haven't checked out all your switch-combinations.
How many will be left with the motor turning if you remove all short circuits?
 
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And another one bites the dust! ;)
All correct now.
 
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Good Job! :smile:
As you are learning in solving such questions, analyzing how a circuit functions is most important.
Once you've determined that, the rest follows more easily.

Your encoding is easy enough to follow. Another way to encode your table is in standard binary.
for example: on the input side, position1=0, position2=1. output side: motor off = 0, motor on = 1.
 
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