How much energy does a bicycle diname produces?

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A bicycle dynamo typically produces around 12 watts of power when operating at 10 km/h, drawing about 15 watts from pedaling due to its 80% efficiency. The friction generated by the dynamo will slow the bicycle down, but the exact impact depends on the total power output of the rider. The discussion highlights that no matter how many dynamos are added, they cannot create a perpetual motion machine, as they will always require more energy to operate than they produce. The laws of thermodynamics dictate that energy conversion is never 100% efficient, leading to inevitable energy loss through friction and heat. Ultimately, the bicycle will slow down due to these energy losses.
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So my question is actually really simple.I want to know approximately how much energy does a normal dynamo produce when a bicycle wheel is spinning (at let's say 10 km/h).Please answer me with a number not with a formula because I'm really bad at physics but i just want to test a theory of mine.

P.S: ah.I almost forgot. I want to know what friction does the dynamo make with the wheel.And for my comfort if you could tell me will this friction significantly slow the normal 10km/h and how much exactly ?


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Veselin said:
So my question is actually really simple.I want to know approximately how much energy does a normal dynamo produce when a bicycle wheel is spinning (at let's say 10 km/h).Please answer me with a number not with a formula because I'm really bad at physics but i just want to test a theory of mine.

P.S: ah.I almost forgot. I want to know what friction does the dynamo make with the wheel.And for my comfort if you could tell me will this friction significantly slow the normal 10km/h and how much exactly ?


Thank you!
The force required to power the generator depends on the load. Let's assume it is 12 volts and draws one amp. This is 12 watts. If the generator is about 80% efficient, this means it is drawing 15 watts of power from your pedalling.

You would have to figure out how much power a human can generate but I expect it is significantly greater than that - probably 10 times that. The amount you would slow down would be the proportion that 15 watts is of the total power the person can output.


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Well actually I'm wondering if the following is possible. If you put enough dynamos on a bycicle wheel could they produce enough energy to keep the wheel spinning?A kind of a perpetuum mobile maybe?Why shoudn't it be possible when you can put many dynamos?But will the friction be so huge that they couldn't power the engine that has to spin the wheel?
 
Veselin said:
Well actually I'm wondering if the following is possible. If you put enough dynamos on a bycicle wheel could they produce enough energy to keep the wheel spinning?A kind of a perpetuum mobile maybe?Why shoudn't it be possible when you can put many dynamos?But will the friction be so huge that they couldn't power the engine that has to spin the wheel?
You will always have to input more energy than the machines produce. Machines are never perfect so it takes more energy to run them than they can produce. But even with a perfect machine, you could not get MORE energy out than you put in. This is the law of conservation of energy (which is also the first law of thermodynamics).

Furthermore, the human being is a thermodynamic engine. It produces kinetic energy (of the bicycle) by converting heat energy into mechanical work. The second law of thermodynamics says that you cannot convert all of the energy in heat into useable work.

So, in order to produce a perpetual motion machine you will first have to find some way to prove that the laws of physics are wrong: specifically, the first and second laws of thermodynamics.

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replying to veselin..

once the dynamo produces energy it will be used by the bicycle to move forward plus for rotation..the rotational energy will be used by the dynamo but the translational energy wl b lost into kinetic energy which will further be lost into friction. and plus there shall be internal friction in the machine too..

hence the wheel will stop after some time..
 
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