How Much Water Escapes from a Pressurized Steel Vessel?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of water that escapes from a pressurized steel vessel after a safety plug bursts, with an initial volume of 1.31 m^3 and a pressure increase of 1000 kPa. The correct approach involves using the bulk modulus of water, which is specified as 0.2 x 10^10 N/m^2, leading to a calculated escape volume of approximately 0.655 liters. In a separate problem, participants discuss the angular velocity and speed of a falling rod, emphasizing the importance of potential energy and rotational kinetic energy relationships. There is confusion regarding the correct formulas and numerical multipliers needed for accurate answers in both scenarios. The conversation highlights the necessity of using textbook values for physical constants to achieve correct results.
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Homework Statement



A cylindrical steel pressure vessel with volume 1.31 m^3 is to be tested. The vessel is entirely filled with water, then a piston at one end of the cylinder is pushed in until the pressure inside the vessel has increased by 1000 kPa. Suddenly, a safety plug on the top bursts. How many liters of water come out?

Homework Equations



B=0.2x10^10N/m^2
P1=P0+(rho)gh
P1=-B((Delta V)/V)

The Attempt at a Solution



I am assuming that I have to look for delta V as that would be the water that comes out causing the change in volume.

Delta V=-V(Delta P)/B=-1.31(1000)/(0.2x10^10)
Delta V= 6.55*10^-7

But this is not the right answer. I am confused as to where I'm going wrong.
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A second problem

Homework Statement



A long, thin rod of mass M and length L is standing straight up on a table. Its lower end rotates on a frictionless pivot. A very slight push causes the rod to fall over.

a) As it hits the table, what is the angular velocity of the tip of the rod?
b) What is the speed of the tip of the rod?

Homework Equations


v = wr
a = v^2/r=(w^2)r
v= (2(pi)(r))/T

The Attempt at a Solution



I am having trouble picturing what the question is asking.

a) w = v/r = (2(pi)r)/T/r = 2pi/T...don't know where to go from here

b) I think after I find w in a i just use v = wr
 
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For 1) don't you have 1000 kPa and not 1000 Pa?
 
For 2) consider the moment of inertia of the bar. Consider too the energy in the system as it starts to fall. The total potential energy of the bar should be rotational kinetic energy when it's at the horizontal shouldn't it?
 
LowlyPion said:
For 1) don't you have 1000 kPa and not 1000 Pa?

Yeah its kpa, so in the formula I should use 1 000 000pa and I get 6.55*10^-4 m^3 which will be 0.655L...is that right?
 
2020vision said:
Yeah its kpa, so in the formula I should use 1 000 000pa and I get 6.55*10^-4 m^3 which will be 0.655L...is that right?

If your bulk modulus for water is good.

I might use 4.58 * 10-10 for compressibility k, where k = 1/B, which yields a slightly smaller result.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tables/compress.html#c1
 
LowlyPion said:
For 2) consider the moment of inertia of the bar. Consider too the energy in the system as it starts to fall. The total potential energy of the bar should be rotational kinetic energy when it's at the horizontal shouldn't it?

Ok I made potential energy = rotational energy

so i get:

Ug = Krot
MgL = 1/2 (1/3ML^2)w^2
GL = 1/6 (L^2)(w^2)
sqrt(6g/L) = w

so I put the answer as sqrt (6g/L) on the online system and its wrong, but I get this message:
"Your answer either contains an incorrect numerical multiplier or is missing one."

Where did I go wrong?
 
LowlyPion said:
If your bulk modulus for water is good.

I might use 4.58 * 10-10 for compressibility k, where k = 1/B, which yields a slightly smaller result.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tables/compress.html#c1

We are supposed to use the bulk modulus from our textbook, and that one is 0.2*10^10. Anything else would give a wrong answer in the system. So with this bulk modulus, is 0.655L right?
 
For 2) your potential energy will be the height of the center of mass won't it?
 
2020vision said:
We are supposed to use the bulk modulus from our textbook, and that one is 0.2*10^10. Anything else would give a wrong answer in the system. So with this bulk modulus, is 0.655L right?

That what it looks like to me then.
 
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LowlyPion said:
For 2) your potential energy will be the height of the center of mass won't it?

oh so it should be sqrt (3g/L) right?
 
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2020vision said:
oh so it should be sqrt (3g/L) right?

Yes.
 
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