How to calculate work and power in a simple integral word problem?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating work done in lifting a bag of sand while accounting for the rate at which the sand leaks out. The context is rooted in physics, specifically in the areas of work and power, with a focus on integrating to find the total work done over time.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between force, distance, and work, with attempts to integrate the expressions for work and power. There is questioning of the validity of using constant force in the calculations, and some participants express uncertainty about integrating work versus integrating power.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing dialogue about the correct approach to calculating work, with some participants suggesting the need to integrate power instead of work. Corrections have been made regarding the definitions and relationships between force, power, and work, indicating a productive exploration of the concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of changing force due to the leaking sand, and there is an acknowledgment of the need for careful consideration of the assumptions made in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


A 100 lb bag of sand is lifted for 2 seconds at the rate of 4 feet per second . find the work done in lifting the bag if the sand leaks out at the rate of 1.5 lbs per second.


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The Attempt at a Solution


Here's my attempt at it:
work = force x distance
force = 100-1.5t
distance = 4t
work = 400t-6t2
Now I integrate for t=2 and t=0
∫(400t-6t2)dt
=200t2-2t3 for t=2 and t=0
=800-16=784ft-lb

Any mistakes?
 
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Jimbo57 said:

The Attempt at a Solution


Here's my attempt at it:
work = force x distance
force = 100-1.5t
distance = 4t
work = 400t-6t2

This is not correct. Work =force times distance is valid only when the force is constant during the displacement.
Jimbo57 said:
Now I integrate for t=2 and t=0
∫(400t-6t2)dt
=200t2-2t3 for t=2 and t=0
=800-16=784ft-lb

Any mistakes?

If you integrate work with respect to time, you do not get work.

Use that power = force times velocity, and integrate the power over time.

ehild
 
Ehild, thanks for pointing this out. I had a hunch that integrating work does not give you work, that should be common sense by now for me.

Correction:
power = force x velocity
force = 100-1.5t
velocity = 4
power = 400-6t
Now I integrate for t=2 and t=0
work = ∫(400-6t)dt
=400t-3t2 for t=2 and t=0
=800-12=788ft-lb
 
Jimbo57 said:
Ehild, thanks for pointing this out. I had a hunch that integrating work does not give you work, that should be common sense by now for me.

Correction:
power = force x velocity
force = 100-1.5t
velocity = 4
power = 400-6t
Now I integrate for t=2 and t=0
work = ∫(400-6t)dt
=400t-3t2 for t=2 and t=0
=800-12=788ft-lb

That looks much better.
 

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