How to define change of angular momentum in non-isolated system?

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The discussion focuses on understanding the change of angular momentum in a non-isolated system, particularly in the context of a problem involving a snowball. Participants clarify that torque is calculated as the product of force and distance from the axis of rotation, while angular momentum is defined as the cross product of the position vector and momentum. There is confusion about the expression mvL, which is identified as angular momentum rather than torque. The conversation also explores how the direction of momentum affects the overall angular momentum when considering additional forces. The key takeaway is the distinction between torque and angular momentum in the context of the problem.
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Homework Statement



http://tycho.physics.wisc.edu/courses/phys201/fall06/Discussion/Disc14Solution.pdf

problem 38, part b)

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I final w final = I initial w initial

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I understand that the snowball is introducing a net torque and I know that torque = (force applied) x (distance from axis of rotation) (in this case). I am just unsure how the torque was calculated as mvL. I know L is the distance, but isn't mv the momentum of the ball?
 
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mvL is angular momentum, not torque. Angular momentum is defined as r x p, where r is the position vector and p is the momentum of the object. In this case, r is perpendicular to p, so it makes sense that angular momentum would be mvL.
 
ideasrule said:
mvL is angular momentum, not torque. Angular momentum is defined as r x p, where r is the position vector and p is the momentum of the object. In this case, r is perpendicular to p, so it makes sense that angular momentum would be mvL.

Ok that makes sense. If the ball were coming from the right side would we add mvL instead, because the momentum being added to the system is in the same direction of its initial angular momentum?
 
Yes, that's correct.
 
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