How to Derive the Acceleration of Mass A in a Double Atwood Machine?

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To derive the acceleration of mass A in a double Atwood machine, the discussion emphasizes the importance of free-body diagrams to analyze forces acting on the masses. Participants mention using the fundamental equation F = ma and the need to account for tensions in the strings connecting the masses. There is a consensus that the tensions in the system are related, with one participant noting that the tension in the middle mass is double that of the outer masses. Despite attempts to solve the equations, several users express difficulty in manipulating the algebra to arrive at the correct formula. Overall, the discussion highlights the complexity of the problem and the collaborative effort to reach a solution.
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Homework Statement



I've tried and tried and can't solve this to look like this equation. Please Help!

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1. Show that the Acceleration of Mass A is given by : (look at picture)

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Homework Equations



F = ma

The Attempt at a Solution



So far all I have is a = g(mA-mB)/(mA+mB)

Im lost
 
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Did you draw any free-body diagrams?
 
Yeah all have tension going up and mg going down except the pulley which has tension up and tension down as well *** mg. The tension of string attaching a and b are the same and c and d are the same.
 
Does the following look like I'm on the right track? Six equations in six unknowns.
 

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Yeah, I have that down. I solved for the smaller system(mA, mB, mD) for acceleration and tension. I'm guessing x is acceleration. If so that's exactly what I have. I can't get the algebra right or something when I solve for a1 and a2(the two separate accelerations of the strings). I keep getting close to the given formula but I'm messing up somewhere.
 
hey do you go to tech??
m having problem with the same question...did you solved it??
 
the trick is displace one body and see the motion of other bodies eg.if u displace the "Mc" body then the other two bodies(Ma and Mb) will as a whole go down but one of them will go up and other down relative to each other.then draw the free body diagram on each.NOTE: tension in the Mc body will be 2times that of ropes of other two.then write the equations involving T and g.gud luck
 
I'm also at Tech. I get some of it, but there are like 3 parts to the final equation that I'm missing. I'm still not exactly sure on how to do this.
 
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