How to Determine Correct Node Voltages in NMOS Circuit Analysis?

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The discussion focuses on determining the correct node voltages in NMOS circuit analysis, specifically addressing the conditions for saturation mode. The calculations yield two potential solutions for the drain voltage (V_D) of 0.37V and 1.2V, but the saturation condition requires that V_GS exceeds the threshold voltage (V_tn), which neither solution satisfies. A similar analysis for the source voltage (V_S) results in solutions of -1.2V and -0.37V, with the same saturation condition applying. The key takeaway is that both sets of solutions are invalid as they do not meet the necessary condition for saturation (V_GS > V_tn). Understanding the saturation criteria is crucial for correctly determining the node voltages in NMOS circuits.
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Find the labelled node voltages. Assume ##k_n = 0.5 \frac{mA}{V^2}## and ##V_{tn} = 0.8V##. Neglect channel length modulation ##(\lambda = 0)##.

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f) For this problem, I see ##V_D = V_G \Rightarrow V_G - V_D = 0V \Rightarrow V_{GD} = 0 V##.

Now ##V_{GD} = 0V < 0.8V = V_{tn}## which implies saturation mode.

The drain current is then given by:

$$I_D = \frac{1}{2} k_n V_{ov}^2$$

By using KVL, ##I_D = \frac{5V - V_D}{100k \Omega}##.

Now, ##V_{ov} = V_{GS} - V_{tn}##, but we know ##V_{GS} = V_G - V_S = V_G - 0V = V_G##. We also know that ##V_G = V_D##, so ##V_{GS} = V_G = V_D##. Hence we can write ##V_{ov} = V_D - V_{tn}##.

Subbing these into the drain current equation we obtain:

$$\frac{5V - V_D}{100k \Omega} = \frac{1}{2} k_n (V_D - V_{tn})^2$$

This yields a quadratic in ##V_D##, which has two solutions:

##V_D = 0.37V## and ##V_D = 1.2V##.

I am unsure how to exactly reason which of these is the proper solution.
h) For this problem, ##V_D = 5V## and ##V_G = 0V##. So ##V_{GD} = V_G - V_D = - 5V##.

Now ##V_{GD} < V_{tn}## which implies saturation operation.

The drain current is equal to the source current since ##I_G = 0##, so ##I_D = I_S = \frac{1}{2} k_n V_{ov}^2##.

Writing KVL we see: ##I_S = \frac{V_S + 5V}{100k}##.

Now, ##V_{ov} = V_{GS} - V_{tn}##, but we know ##V_{GS} = V_G - V_S = 0V - V_S = - V_S##. Hence we can write ##V_{ov} = - V_S - V_{tn}##.

Subbing these into the source current equation we obtain:

$$\frac{V_S + 5V}{100k} = \frac{1}{2} k_n (- V_S - V_{tn})^2$$
$$\frac{V_S + 5V}{100k} = \frac{1}{2} k_n (V_S + V_{tn})^2$$

This is another quadratic in ##V_S## that yields two solutions:

##V_S = -1.2V## or ##V_S = - 0.37V##.

Once again I would like to ensure my understanding of which solution is correct.

If someone could help me understand how to choose the right solution it would be very appreciated.

Thank you.
 
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Zondrina said:
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The condition for saturation includes Vgs > Vth. Both your answers of Vgs = 0.37V do not meet that requirement so are obviously invalid.
 
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