How to Determine the Upward Acceleration of a Mass in a Pulley System?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a pulley system with two masses, where one mass is on a horizontal surface and connected to another mass via a string. A force is applied at an angle to one of the masses, and the task is to determine the upward acceleration of the second mass. The context includes considerations of friction and the forces acting on the masses.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's second law to the system and question the assumptions made about equilibrium and forces. There are inquiries about the calculation of weight and friction force, as well as the relationship between the two masses in the system.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on applying Newton's laws and clarifying the definitions of weight and friction force. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored, particularly regarding the forces acting on the masses and the assumptions about equilibrium.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of specific values for masses and forces, as well as the coefficient of kinetic friction. Participants express confusion over the correct application of these values in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


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Mass m1=26.1 kg is on a horizontal surface, connected to mass m2= 5.50 kg by a light string as shown. The pulley has negligible mass and no friction. A force of 197.7 N acts on m1 at an angle of 33.3 deg.
The coefficient of kinetic friction between m1 and the surface is 0.233. Determine the upward acceleration of m2.
2.44 m/s^2

Homework Equations


a1 = a2

T1 = T2

T1 = Fcos(theta) - Frictionforce

Friction force = uk(Normal Force)

Normal Force = weight - Fsin(theta)


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm actually looking at this problem again since I first did a week ago and I don't have the sheet I worked it out on with me right now, but using the equations I wrote above keeping in mind that T1=T2 I pretty much worked the whole thing out, however when I entered it into the online homework system I got it wrong no matter what I did I just couldn't get it. Can someone help me out with what I'm doing wrong? By the way I know what the answer is, but I just no how you would go about getting to it, I step-by-step run down through the problem would be helpful.
 
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delecticious said:
a1 = a2

T1 = T2
These are OK.

T1 = Fcos(theta) - Frictionforce
This assumes equilibrium, which is not the case here: the masses are accelerating. For each mass, apply Newton's 2nd law. You'll get two equations which you can solve together.

Friction force = uk(Normal Force)

Normal Force = weight - Fsin(theta)
OK.
 
Is the weight both masses added together? I have this same question with different numbers/masses.

is friction force the same as mass*acceleration = u*normal force?
 
lexi011 said:
Is the weight both masses added together? I have this same question with different numbers/masses.
No. Why would you add the weights together?
is friction force the same as mass*acceleration = u*normal force?
The friction force will equal μ*N. (But don't set it equal to mass*acceleration--other forces are acting.)
 

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