How to determine the value of electronegativity

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In comparing an atom from Period 4, Group 7 with an atom from Period 3, Group 5, the discussion centers on determining which atom is more electronegative without referencing the periodic table or electronegativity values. It is noted that Period 4 elements have a larger atomic radius, leading to a weaker effective nuclear charge due to increased electron shielding. This typically results in decreased electronegativity as one moves down periods. However, there is confusion regarding the classification of Group 5 and 7 elements as d-block metals, suggesting a need to clarify that electronegativity trends can behave unusually in the d-block, sometimes increasing down the periods. Overall, the key point is that while Period 4 elements are larger and generally less electronegative, the specific group classifications complicate the comparison.
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for an atom that is an element in Period 4 , Group 7

to compare with another atom of element in Period 3, Group 5

Without looking at the Periodic table or electronegativity values, how can I

determine which one of these two atom is more electronegative?

(While Period 4, Group 7 has more number of outermost electrons but it has a larger atomic radius)

Can anyone good at Chemistry explain? Thank you very much!
 
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Well period 4 elements will be way bigger than period 3 elements and as a result their effective nuclear charge is a lot weaker because their nuclei are shielded way more (due to the greater number of electrons surrounding the nuclei). Thats why electronegativity usually decreases as you move down periods. Group 5 and 7 are d block metals and they start at period 4 so you're question doesn't make sense. Let's say its period 4 and 5 instead of 3 and 4. Electronegativity trends get a bit abnormal in the d block and it often increases as you move down periods. I don't know why that is.
 
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