How High Does an Arrow Reach if Shot at 46m/s?

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In this discussion, participants analyze the mechanics of an arrow shot from the ground with an initial speed of 46 m/s, reaching a maximum height with a speed of 42 m/s. The focus is on applying the conservation of mechanical energy principle, where the initial and final mechanical energies are equated. The initial energy is expressed as Ei = (1/2)mvi², while the final energy includes both kinetic and potential energy: Ef = (1/2)mvf² + mgh. A key point of confusion arises from double-counting the kinetic energies in the equations. Clarification is provided that each kinetic energy term should only appear once in the energy balance, leading to the correct formulation for solving the maximum height reached by the arrow.
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An arrow is shot from ground (height=0) at a speed of 46m/s and travels in an archy line and at the maximum height has a speed of 42m/s. Arrows mass is, m...what is the maximum height that the arrow reaches? **IGNORE ANY FRICTION**

Thanks for any help guys


What I did was:

Et1=Mechanical energy before arrow was shot
Et2=Mechanical Energy after arrow was shot
Vf2=Final velocity squared
Vf1=Initial velocity squared



Et1=Et2

m(vf2)/2 - m(vi2)/2 = mgh + m(vf2)/2 - m(vi2)/2

...it doesn't work out though...why?
 
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Originally posted by PiRsq
Et1=Mechanical energy before arrow was shot
Et2=Mechanical Energy after arrow was shot
Vf2=Final velocity squared
Vf1=Initial velocity squared

Et1=Et2

You've got the right idea.

m(vf2)/2 - m(vi2)/2 = mgh + m(vf2)/2 - m(vi2)/2

...it doesn't work out though...why?

You've double-counted the kinetic energies. Each one should only appear once.

The total initial energy is Ei=(1/2)mvi2

The total final energy is Ef=(1/2)mvf2+mgh

Just equate and solve.
 
But why though, I don't get it?
 
What don't you get? The expressions for the total energies, or the mistake of double counting kinetic energy?
 
Double counting the Kinetic energy thing...
 


Continuing with what I wrote earlier:

Originally posted by Tom
The total initial energy is Ei=(1/2)mvi2

The total final energy is Ef=(1/2)mvf2+mgh

Just equate and solve.

Equate the energies Ei=Ef

(1/2)mvi2=(1/2)mvf2+mgh

See? You put in an extra -(1/2)mvi2 on the RHS and an extra -(1/2)mvf2 on the LHS.
 
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