How To Find Depth Given TIME ONLY

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The discussion revolves around calculating the depth of a lake using the time it takes for a high-frequency sound to travel to the bottom and back. Given the speed of sound in water as 1500 m/s and a total time of 0.1 seconds, the calculated depth is 75 meters, which is confirmed as correct. Participants also discuss a related problem involving a ship and a cliff, clarifying that the echo time indicates the sound travels to the cliff and back, totaling 440 meters. The conversation emphasizes understanding sound travel and echo concepts to solve similar problems. Overall, the calculations and concepts discussed are essential for accurately determining distances based on sound travel time.
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Homework Statement


The time it takes a high frequency sound to travel from the surface of the lake to the bottom of the lake and back to the surface is 0.1seconds. What is the depth of the lake?


Homework Equations


Speed of sound in water= 1500m/s
Time=0.1s
Depth=?


The Attempt at a Solution


Depth= Speed of sound * time elapsed/2= 1500*0.1/2
= 75m
IS THIS CORRECT? PLEASE HELP?
 
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Looks good to me!
 
Really? I assumed that 1500 m/s was the speed of sound in water. Didn't know if it was correct since it wasn't given to me in the question... Can u help me with another question please?
 
Really? I assumed that 1500 m/s was the speed of sound in water. Didn't know if it was correct since it wasn't given to me in the question... Can u help me with another question please?
 
Oh, I assumed you were given the speed of sound in water at 1500 m/s, but it still looks good, since Wikipedia says the speed of sound in water is 1484 m/s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound). What is your other question?
 
phyzguy said:
Oh, I assumed you were given the speed of sound in water at 1500 m/s, but it still looks good, since Wikipedia says the speed of sound in water is 1484 m/s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound). What is your other question?

Thanks.
The other question is:
A ship is 220metres from a large cliff when it sounds its foghorn. If the echo time is 0.5s, how far is the ship from the cliff?

I don't understand what to do.
 
It's conceptually the same as the first one. Treat it the same way. What is an echo?
 
phyzguy said:
It's conceptually the same as the first one. Treat it the same way. What is an echo?

An echo is a repeated sound caused by the reflection of sound waves from a surface. I still don't get what to do :(

Should I multiply 220 by the 0.5? :/
 
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An echo means the sound went from the ship to the cliff, was reflected from the cliff and traveled back to the ship, where it was heard. Does this help?
 
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phyzguy said:
An echo means the sound went from the ship to the cliff, was reflected from the cliff and traveled back to the ship, where it was heard. Does this help?

I understand that but I just don't know how to work it out.. would the distance be the same?
 
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How far does the sound have to go to go from the ship to the cliff and back?
 
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phyzguy said:
How far does the sound have to go to go from the ship to the cliff and back?

220metres...
 
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If the ship is 220 meters from the cliff, how far does the sound have to go to go from the ship to the cliff and back?
 
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440 metres?
 
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OK, good. Now how fast is the sound traveling (remember it is in air)? And given this, how long will it take?
 
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1] this was posted elsewhere and,
2] taken as-is, it's a trick question. The answer is provided in the question.
 
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