How to invert an integral equation

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The discussion revolves around inverting an integral equation involving a physical quantity f(r) that is expressed as an integral of another quantity q(r) over a bounded volume. The original poster seeks to determine if it is possible to derive q(r) from f(r) using a linear operator.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between f(r) and q(r) through convolution and the properties of Fourier transforms. The original poster attempts to relate the problem to the Poisson equation, while others introduce the concept of indicator functions and convolution properties.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing various mathematical approaches to the problem, including the use of convolutions and Fourier transforms. Some insights have been shared regarding the convolution theorem, but there is no explicit consensus on a solution or method to invert the integral equation.

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There is mention of uncertainty regarding the generalization of the problem to multiple dimensions and the original poster's lack of success in deriving a solution. The discussion is framed within the context of a textbook-like example, indicating a structured approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement



Suppose we have a physical quantity f(r) depending on another quantity q(r). f(r) is known at all points.
If the following relationship holds:

Homework Equations


f(r)=\int_{\Omega}q(r-r')dr'
where \Omega is a bounded volume,
is there any possibility to invert somehow such relationship
in order to have informations on q(r)?
Something like (but not necessarily):
q(r)=Lf(r)
where L is a linear operator.

The Attempt at a Solution


It is a problem similar to that of the Poisson equation, but I should procede
in the opposite way, starting from the integral relationship to get the differential form.
I have already tried to do that but with no success.
This is a textbook like example but I have to say I have no idea whether a solution exists.
(I have not taken it from a book)
Thank you very much to all
 
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not an answer but maybe an insight, not totally sure on the generalistion to multiple dimensions, as I have only really played with convolutions in 1D...

here's some stuff on convolutions if you haven't seen them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolution

define an indicator function for \Omega:
s(r) = 1, \ r \ in \ \Omega, \ 0 \ otherwise

Now using the indicator function, you can change the integral to a convolution over all space
f(r)=s*q = \int s(r') q(r-r')dr'

Using the properties of convolution q*s = s*q
f(r)=q*s = \int q(r') s(r-r')dr'

so the integral is summing up q(r) over the volume Omega, shifted to center r
 
then, the convolution theorem says, if you take the Fourier transform a convolution, then:
F=\mathbb{F} \{ f(r) \} = \mathbb{F} \{ q*s (r) \} =\mathbb{F} \{ q(r) \} \mathbb{F} \{ s(r) \} = QS

then rearranging for q
q(r) = \mathbb{F}^{-1} \{ \frac{F}{S} \}
 
I do not see anything I could complain about this derivation.
I guessed you solved the problem.
What else to say ...
Many thanks lanedance!
Hope you have a nice day,
Cheers
 

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