How to Simplify the Solution of a Definitive Integral?

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The discussion revolves around the simplification of a definite integral involving a square root and a rational function. The integral in question is related to a problem involving the geometry of a cone, specifically incorporating parameters such as radius and height.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore various ways to simplify the integrand, questioning the nature of the parameters involved, such as whether 'r' is a constant. There are attempts to rewrite the integrand in a more manageable form, suggesting that it can be expressed as a function of z and a quadratic polynomial.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into potential simplifications and expressing uncertainty about the complexity of the solution. Some guidance has been offered regarding the approach to take when dealing with integrands that include radicals and quadratic expressions.

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There is a mention of the problem being related to a cone, which may imply geometric constraints or specific interpretations of the variables involved. Additionally, participants note that the solution derived so far is considered messy, indicating potential challenges in the simplification process.

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Any ideas how to solve this
[tex]\int_0^h {\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+(r({\frac{1}{z}}-{\frac{1}{h}}))^2}}}\,dz[/tex]
Don't have an idea from where to begin
 
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The correct term is 'definite integral'.

Is r a constant?
 
Yeah, this is problem from ED R is radius and h is height of cone.
 
Djokara said:
Any ideas how to solve this
[tex]\int_0^h {\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+(r({\frac{1}{z}}-{\frac{1}{h}}))^2}}}\,dz[/tex]
Don't have an idea from where to begin

Start by simplifying the integrand.
 
Djokara said:
Any ideas how to solve this
[tex]\int_0^h {\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+(r({\frac{1}{z}}-{\frac{1}{h}}))^2}}}\,dz[/tex]
Don't have an idea from where to begin

How about this: We have the expression:

[tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+(r/z-a)^2}}[/tex]

now, can you simplify that and get:

[tex]\frac{z}{\sqrt{Q(z)}}[/tex]

where [itex]Q(z)[/itex] is a quadratic polynomial in z? Then we'd have:

[tex]\int \frac{z}{\sqrt{Q(z)}} dz[/tex]

Now I don't know about you, but I'd look in my Calculus textbook about integrands with radicals with quadratic expressions (I did). And what is the first thing done when that happens?
 
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That worked but solution is messy.
 

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