How to Solve Trigonometric Functions with Arcsec and Pi/4

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around evaluating the expression cos(ArcSec(-√2 + π/4)) and understanding the relationship between the angle π/4 and its cosine value. Participants explore the implications of substituting π/4 with its approximate decimal value and the properties of the arcsecant function.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question the validity of substituting π/4 with √2/2 and discuss the differences between these values. There is an exploration of the relationships between secant, cosine, and arcsecant functions, with hints towards simplification methods.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the properties of trigonometric functions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the simplification of the expression, and there is a recognition of confusion surrounding the use of π/4. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the principal range of arcsec and the potential confusion arising from the inclusion of π/4 in the expression. Participants are navigating through assumptions about the values involved in the trigonometric functions.

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Homework Statement


[tex]cos(ArcSec(-\sqrt2+\frac{\pi}{4})[/tex]



The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]cos(ArcSec(-\sqrt2+\frac{\sqrt2}{2})[/tex]

In order to solve this problem how do l deal with the [tex]\frac{\pi}{4}[/tex]. Is it correct to substitute [tex]\frac{\pi}{4}[/tex] with [tex]\frac{\sqrt2}{2}[/tex]
 
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Hi Nyasha!

Why do you think that [tex]\frac{\pi}{4}\approx .785[/tex] is the same as [tex]\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}\approx .707[/tex]?

You can however simplify cos(arcsec(...)).
 
yyat said:
Hi Nyasha!

Why do you think that [tex]\frac{\pi}{4}\approx .785[/tex] is the same as [tex]\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}\approx .707[/tex]?

You can however simplify cos(arcsec(...)).


So is this correct:


[tex] cos(ArcSec(-\sqrt2+(0.785)) [/tex]
 
Well, you don't need to use decimal notation (and probably should not in this case), I was just trying to demonstrate that the two numbers are not the same.

What I was hinting at before: sec(x)=1/cos(x), so arcsec(x)=arccos(1/x) and also cos(arccos(x))=x by definition. Use this to simplify your expression.
 
yyat said:
Well, you don't need to use decimal notation (and probably should not in this case), I was just trying to demonstrate that the two numbers are not the same.

What I was hinting at before: sec(x)=1/cos(x), so arcsec(x)=arccos(1/x) and also cos(arccos(x))=x by definition. Use this to simplify your expression.



I can evaluate this thing without the [tex]\frac{\pi}{4}[/tex] by the assistance of of the principal range of arcsec and a diagram. I just am just getting confused with the [tex]\frac{\pi}{4}[/tex].
 
yyat said:
Well, you don't need to use decimal notation (and probably should not in this case), I was just trying to demonstrate that the two numbers are not the same.

What I was hinting at before: sec(x)=1/cos(x), so arcsec(x)=arccos(1/x) and also cos(arccos(x))=x by definition. Use this to simplify your expression.

Thanks, l have solved the question.

[itex]\text{Using pricinpal values: }\:\text{arcsec}\left(\text{-}\sqrt{2}\right) \:=\:\frac{3\pi}{4}[/itex]


And then add the [itex]\frac{3\pi}{4}[/itex] to the[itex]\frac{\pi}{4}[/itex]
 
So it really was [tex]\text{cos}(\text{arcsec}(-\sqrt{2})+\frac{\pi}{4})[/tex]? Otherwise, it is not correct.
 
yyat said:
So it really was [tex]\text{cos}(\text{arcsec}(-\sqrt{2})+\frac{\pi}{4})[/tex]? Otherwise, it is not correct.
Yes it was : [tex]\{cos}(\text{arcsec}(-\sqrt{2})+\frac{\pi}{4})[/tex]
It seemed as if l had copied the thing wrongly.However,it seems as if l have solved it.
 

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