How Transmission Lines Transposition could affect Protection systems?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the impact of transposition in transmission lines on the evaluation and setup of protection systems, particularly in long AC transmission lines. Participants explore the implications of transposition for system balance and protection strategies, as well as related concepts in transmission line theory.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires whether transposition affects the evaluation of protection systems for transmission lines compared to non-transposed lines.
  • Another participant mentions the behavior of open circuited quarter wave lines and suggests that using DC for long-distance transmission may mitigate certain issues.
  • A participant clarifies that the focus is on long AC transmission lines and explains that transposition is used to balance impedance and admittance, which contributes to unbalanced voltages.
  • There are questions regarding the support of TEM waves by transmission lines and the differences between transmission lines and waveguides.
  • A participant asserts that transposition can minimize inductive coupling between adjacent lines, referencing specific literature to support this claim.
  • Another participant reiterates the question about TEM waves and provides a link to a Wikipedia article, indicating that certain transmission lines do support TEM waves.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion includes multiple competing views, particularly regarding the effects of transposition and the behavior of TEM waves in transmission lines. No consensus is reached on these topics.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the nature of transmission lines and the implications of transposition, with some references to specific literature that may not be universally accepted or understood.

Luichip
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I would like to know if Transposition on Transmission Lines could affect the basis and the way the power system is evaluated to set up the protection for the Transmission line? as compared to the non-transposed Transmission Lines.

Thanks in advance,

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Are you referring to the fact that an open circuited quarter wave line will present a short circuit at the input? (etc.) It's enough of a problem to make it worth while using DC for long distance power transmission.
 
I'm Talking about Long AC Transmission Lines, not DC in this case. Thanks.

Transposition is done regularly in long AC transmission lines as a means of balancing transmission line frequency impedance and admittance in a long line, and that contribute to unbalance voltages. This is usually done in double circuit AC long transmission lines...
 
I want to why TEM waves are not supported by transmission lines? and where is the point of difference in using waveguides and transmission lines?
Thanx in Advance.
 
ZunairaMaryam said:
I want to why TEM waves are not supported by transmission lines? and where is the point of difference in using waveguides and transmission lines?
They do. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_line
This is why RG-8 has a characteristic impedance of Z=50 ohms, for example.

Bob S
 
Transposition of individual conductors in a long AC transmission lines can minimize the inductive coupling to proximal lines. See refs 23-25 by Firestone and (Barney) Oliver on page 553 in

http://astro.berkeley.edu/~greg/isnumber=24903&prod=JNL&arnumber=1126050&arSt=+544&ared=+558&arAuthor=+Cristal%252C+E.G.%253B++Young%252C+L.pdf

If the lines are not transposed, loss of current in one line will inductively couple to the other lines.

Bob S
 
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