How would the electric field vector vary at a large distance

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The discussion centers on calculating the electric field from an insulating sphere with a specific charge density, which results in a total charge of zero. Participants clarify that a zero total charge does not imply a zero electric field, as the field can still arise from the distribution of positive and negative charges. The leading order term for the electric field at a distance d from the charge distribution is expected to vary as d^-1. The conversation emphasizes the importance of considering higher-order effects and the spatial distribution of charge when determining the electric field. Ultimately, understanding these concepts is crucial for solving the problem effectively.
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Hi guys,
I am stuck at this problem,

Homework Statement


Here it is given that an insulating sphere of radius a, carries a charge density ρ=ρ'( a^2-r^2)cosθ, when r <a. How will the leading order term for the electric field at a distance d, far away from this charge distribution vary?

ρ' is a constant term.

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I was thinking of calculating the total charge first. But here on integrating the given charge density I'm ending up getting zero.
∫ρ dτ= 0. Because dτ=r^2 sinθ dθ dφ dr
I'm unable to understand how to approach the sum, if I'm getting the total charge 0 in the first place?
The answer is that the field must vary by d^-1
 
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Hello Naomi, :welcome:

(Please use and do not erase the homework template -- it's good for you too ! :smile)

Your thinking is just fine. Charge zero does not mean field zero, though:

If the total charge is zero, you might want to look at the subsequent order: after all, a + charge at (0,0,1) and a - charge at (0,0,-1) do cause an electric field, even further away...
 
BvU said:
Hello Naomi, :welcome:

(Please use and do not erase the homework template -- it's good for you too ! :smile)

Your thinking is just fine. Charge zero does not mean field zero, though:

If the total charge is zero, you might want to look at the subsequent order: after all, a + charge at (0,0,1) and a - charge at (0,0,-1) do cause an electric field, even further away...
Hello! Oh I'm so sorry, I'm new so I didn't know.
Well if the charge is zero, how does the field exist? Because the expression of electric field itself has the "Q" term. The answer is that the electric field must vary by d^-1. I'm still not able to solve :((
 
Naomi13 said:
Well if the charge is zero, how does the field exist?
The blue characters are clickable. Did you look there ?
BvU said:
a + charge at (0,0,1) and a - charge at (0,0,-1) do cause an electric field, even further away
Make a drawing and see that the two contributions to the field at some point do not cancel.

Naomi13 said:
The answer is that the electric field must vary by d^-1
Is that so ? How do you know ?
 
BvU said:
The blue characters are clickable. Did you look there ?
Make a drawing and see that the two contributions to the field at some point do not cancel.

Is that so ? How do you know ?
Well the answer is provided in my book.
 
Well, if the book says so, who knows :rolleyes: . Let's try and find out if it's correct.

What about the remainder of post #4, the other two items ?
 
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